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Old 03-09-2010, 03:26 PM
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Default Preflopstrategy HU - how can i play vs...

a decent player who raises about 2.5bb from the button? I don't want to play oop much and 3betting isn't a very good option because I can only 3bet to around 7.5bb. How would you adjust vs this opening size?
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Old 03-09-2010, 04:51 PM
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Default Re: Preflopstrategy HU - how can i play vs...

My oponents postflop play (cbetting frequencies, bet sizing, how he plays in 3bet pots) and stack sizes usually will effect my preflop play more than a small difference in bet sizing will. Not that I don't think it's important, and I do think some adjustment needs to be made...I just want to point out and make sure others keep this in mind when analyzing and constructing your own preflop game.

That said, all things equal outside of his raise size varations....

I'll loosen up a little bit with what I defend with simpley because we are given better odds preflop. With that, I'll mix in more leads into my range as check/raising becomes less attractive in spots simply because we won't be able to raise as much after he cbets a 3/4th pot size bet. It also lets us incorporate cheap bluffs into our leading range to balance it and to try and steal some pots cheaply and counter his preflop style a bit.

I'll be double barreling a higher frequency once I lead too. And 3 barrel when the board doesn't change much because I expect his flop calling range to widen and weaken against our leads as they will be less than they "normally" are and also there is more stacks to play with which give more value to draws and position.

If he gets wise to this, I'll start to try and check/raise strong hands on turns and probably ease off with weaker made hands as well. But still have about the same frequency with my draws and complete air on those turn barrels.

I might check/call a bit lighter too with some weaker draws and weaker made hands and force him to barrel us. We can get a good...and now cheaper, read on turns when we check call now that we only have to call a 1.5bb raise preflop and a 3-4bb flop bet to see how his turn frequencies deviate from his flop frequencies...where before in "normal" spots we'd have to call 2bb pre and 4-5bb on the flop to get that same information and potential value therafter.

My 3betting range migh not change all too much (it will but it really will depend on who I'm playing and could go either direction depending on the opponent) but my cbetting frequency will almost always be higher once I 3bet.

In general tho, if he's a tighter player, then loosening up in spots like these can still really get you into trouble. And if he plays a loose passive game (defends a lot) in his BB then you shouldn't have to adjust a ton since you'll be playing more hands in position and in bigger pots which is a double bonus for us in the grand scheme of things.

If he uses the position and higher stack to pot ratios to up his betting and raising frequencies then some steps need to be taken. Balance will be key in a lot of spots if the player is smart. If he's aggro but incampable of thinking on higher levels then try and let him hang himself as best you can (lead/call strong hands and c/r blank turns when stacks are deeper...or check/call flops and c/r turns when stacks are appropriate)

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Old 03-09-2010, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: Preflopstrategy HU - how can i play vs...

Thanks a lot for the great response sc000t!
I really like your adjustments except i can't fully agree with opening your checkcall range. at least my game nearly doesnt have a checkcall range as I feel I play terrible while cc most of the time and i get myself in big big trouble too often. I might have to take a deeper look in this, thanks big time for your ideas!
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Old 03-10-2010, 09:19 AM
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Default Re: Preflopstrategy HU - how can i play vs...

Was just some stuff to think about. A lot of the advice really needs to be applied to a specific player type though, but that advice is some ideas on how you can adjust to an opponents strategy.

You need to have a check/calling range HU OOP and not having one is going to be a leak imo.

Simply put...

If you eliminate a check/call from your flop options then you're left with:

Lead
Check/fold
Check/raise

I don't think you're leading out too often but I could be wrong?

If the majority of the time you are check/raising or check/folding and that is a very hard, if not almost impossible action to balance. If you check/fold too often then you'll be cbet to death and you'll give a good read on your check/raising range and let your opponent make very clear and correct decisions when you do check/raise.

If you check/raise a high % then his calling or shoving requirements will drop to counter that strategy and he will also cbet less frequently but a stronger range.

Having a check/calling range...and balancing that range helps balance out those two other actions (check/raise and check/fold) so you're less exploitable and harder to play against. It also makes it easier for you to win at showdown with less than premium hands which you may not be currently winning with because they don't qualify in your leading or check/raising range.
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