Bankrollmanagement, tables, HELP.

[TheStudent]

Ok guys, here it comes, a few days ago, I said this in ''becoming a millionaire'' topic or something like that:

''Yeah. Decided to play 4 till I crush 200nl. Might take a while since I am between 20 and 50nl atm lol. Also very very aggro brm so might become a rollercoaster, but thats fine for me. Guess its the best way to move up and learn fast if you dont need to live from it.''

This is all bullshit

First a little bit about my pokerhistory. In 11 days, I play exactly poker with HM for 1 year. (started at 6NL). Went allright I guess, till I did my first shot with 2k roll at 100NL, lost 3 BI, runned bad/played bad at 50NL, cashed out a bit, started at a new site, went from 1k to 2k again, cashed out abit, played 50NL, played 20NL (this is when I joined leggo), played 50NL again, went to 2k, cashed out a bit, and now my roll is 1k again and I am between 50 and 20NL. My graph at my last site:




Here 2 things about tables and brm I heard a lot:

Tables: With 4 tables, it's hard to get volume in, but with 6 tables, you can't think about spots as much compared to 4. You can also play always 6, and if you work hard enough on your game besides playing, you can also improve and move up. You will improve faster with 4.

BRM: When you use for example a 20BI rule and taking 3BI shots, it's the fastest way to move up EV wise, if you assume you always play your A-game and beat the game. But yeah, let's face it, if you take a 3BI 100NL shot at 2k, and you fail. You have got 1700 for 50NL than. Lets say you loose 10BI after that, you suddenly only got 1200. Session after that, you cannot really loose anymore, otherwise you have to move down to 20NL, and 100NL to 20NL is pretty hard.


I don't really need the money I win with poker, but like it to cashout sometimes a little bit to buy something nice. (So, if possible, I can look for a stupid job besides my study) I also like to play very aggro (boring to play very tight), but I also think I cannot handle the swings like before compared to my roll (see graph). (seeing your roll go from 2.2k to 900 in a few days is not nice).

Last thing about myself what might be important due to advice (dont take this the wrong way). Till my 18th, school was very easy for me. Was always one of the smartest in class, and without doing anything, always got one of the best results with math, science etc. Also got always some people said to me a lot ''you are so smart, how can you ever pass that exam without doing anything''. Sort of the same thing is still the case for my study now. Why is this important? Well, I think now, I am really smart, so I thought it would be an easy game to beat 200/400NL in no time, and, like always, without doing (almost) anything. Guess this is also important when I thought about taking shots, because I think always it's an easy game to move up and beat the next limit. I also feel always like the best player on the limit (on 20 and 50NL)This is obviously one big joke if u look to my graph. Few weeks ago, I realized I had to change something, so decided to sport more, eat better, play more poker, and improve 1 hour after every 4 hours of playing, also to keep me motivated. (works pretty so far, the 4:1 thing)

So yeah, here's my question. what brm and how many tables would be good for me? It's time for me to accept some good advice for my personal case, and finally stick to it, and cash out less as possible. Let's say I play 4 tables and tight brm, won't it take forever to reach 200/400NL?


**I guess I explained anything that might be usefull. I know I talked a lot of shit, but since you always hear with this question ''It depends'', I thought lets tell everything, so I cannot get that answer anymore If you guys need to know something more, just ask me.

Tnx in advance!!

[piguanitore]

I'm not that far from your situation, but I'm a brm nit and I prefer it that way, so that I don't have to worry about being too much down before moving down. For example at the moment i'm forcing myself to play with 50 buyins, but i don't feel that safe, i would prefer 80 to 100.
Even though it looks really nitty, it's better that way for me because i have more confidence and feel safer, so find your own number of buyins which you are comfortable playing with.

About the number of tables, just play the most you can play without playing differently. What i mean is that I know i play exactly the same with 7 tables or 2 tables, find your own number and increase when you're comfortable is what i'd say.

[TheStudent]

hourly best at 6. Winrate with 4. You can also take way more time etc to take notes and review big pots with 4. 6 more $, but guess improve faster with 4. Lol really dunno
And find roll you feel comfortable with lol. Guess it was clear i dunno what roll that would be.

[piguanitore]

You're asking what is good for you specifically, but no one can know. That's why i said that. Some people use 20 buyins, some people prefer 100 and everything in between. That's just your choice.

[TheStudent]

I know man. Also appreciate your advice. My problem is i guess that i cannot decide and start doubting my strategy too soon...

[yurk23]

I used to play with 30bi for 6max. I felt like it gave me some wiggle room w/o worrying about 4bi losing sessions. I never made it past 50nl 6max before "Black Friday" hit. But, like piguanitore said, its all about what you want to achieve with poker, your comfort and life situation, and how much risk you're willing to take.

[klamsauce]

I think 30 to 40 bi is best and I also think shot-taking sucks. It put too much pressure on the game, you can't think as clearly and you play scared money. Even if you don't think you do, you do. It's natural. You care about the money. Winning a flip gives you a high when taking a shot. That is not good, considering losing that flip is debilitating. Crush the stake you are playing, set up 30 or 35 bi for the next level and just don't look back. You have a huge cushion for mistakes with a bankroll like that and if the success you achieved at the lower level isn't a fluke, you will never have to move down again.
Have some patience and you will move up faster than you think, rather than bouncing around taking shots then moving down then taking shots and moving down etc.

[TheStudent]

Allright guys, tnx for all the advice!

I made my decision

Will play 4 tables always, and go for the 30BI rule with a 5BI shot

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Edit: still not sure about the 4 tables to be honest

[BigCheesy]

I have had so similar story to you it's painful.

First thing I would advice you is - find what tilts you in the game - is it the variance, are you scared when moving up, how much does it hurt to move down, do you use the money to buy everyday stuff, do you plan on using it only after you reach 200nl+, etc. If you get precise and answer these questions yourself you wouldn't worry if your brm is sound and if 20bi rule is better than 30bi rule or w/e. As for tables - it is also relevant to the questions above - usually the best hourly is better until you reach a plateau.

[Donktard]

gl at playing 200nl with 30buyins!. Especially on multi currency sites like iPoker. After seeing various graphs in the reg threads on 2+2, I personally wouldnt play 200nl unless i had at least 80-100 buyins.