Online vs Live

[fopah]

When i play online i have to be in peak mood/mental condition otherwise i spew like im gus hansen. At live poker i can be tired bored hungry and the guy next to me smells like a sewer drain and i play fine.

As i type I am kinda tilted and now i just started screen capturing trying to see how bad I play. I however believe i have cooled down now and will be playing better for at least another 30 mins and i might break down. I type "river" in the chat box every time i get sucked on now cause I somehow find it therapeutic which it is till someone else is like he hit it on the turn, then i usually go ballistic.

what is it about live poker that magically makes me patient and not feel like gouging my eyes out even though its so boring and i play 10 hands an hour and the people are not fun to talk to. It should tilt me outa ma mind.

At least once every online session i blow a buyin on either over agressing some ***oid or some stupid call down with 0 equity. I will try to post some examples later. I think i have at least one from today.

I lost a pot to a guy live that was 600bb when he was "priced in" with a bare 6 high flush draw vs my set. on the flop. He yelled "ship!" and then complained about how bad he was running. all i did was get up walk around get chips sit back down and make back a hundo. If that would have happend online I woulda started playing junk oop and raising to 5-6x pf. calling down 1 pair cause "this guy is a huge idiot"

heres a hand

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

UTG: $50
Hero (CO): $50
BTN: $10.25
SB: $23
BB: $56.55

Pre-Flop: dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, Hero raises to $2, BTN folds, SB calls $1.75, BB folds

Flop: ($4.50) (2 Players)
SB bets $3, Hero raises to $12, SB raises to $21 and is All-In, Hero calls $9

Turn: ($46.50) (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($46.50) (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $46.50 Pot ($2 Rake)
Hero mucked and LOST (-$23 NET)
SB showed (a pair of Tens) and WON $44.50 (+$21.50 NET)


any advice for me and my mental state?
Is it hopeless?

[IcarusJam]

Think it might be because you have people around, and in person you are a much quieter person than online because you are alone? If my family is around when i'm playing, i tilt less, as i do when in public, playing in a common room or on wireless in a hotel in the lobby. Think u might have what i have, called the, "when im alone i tilt"

[Isura]

In live poker I have what I call internal tilt. I don't show any emotion but I start raising limpers at any chance and generally play way looser than I should. Online my tilt is more calling stationesque

[SEABEAST]

wow i am the exact opposite of OP

i very rarely tilt online but live i absolutely MUST have a friend nearby to talk to otherwise i play like 70/20 (though that is probably neutral ev anyway)

[fopah]

Originally Posted by SEABEAST

wow i am the exact opposite of OP

i very rarely tilt online but live i absolutely MUST have a friend nearby to talk to otherwise i play like 70/20 (though that is probably neutral ev anyway)

is there any suggestions on how to fix this?

[saddu]

i have similar problems, seems like that lately when i play online im doing things without thinking, like a donk.. i call too much.. ecc even if i know that i'm behind ecc. I know i'm a winning player at the stake i play, but now seems like i dislike money
So my line now is.. every time i have to make one click i have to think.. i'm doing that becouse is profitable ora just becouse i'm a ****ing passive tilty donk and makeing this move just like so.. just becouse i know i'm a winning player here but i don't want to win?? hehe i've elaborate this strategy now becouse lately i'm playng without my mind in the game.. and playng my Z game. hope this work he next days

[fopah]

help

[PhilTRich]

wow.. stop tilting?

[fopah]

Originally Posted by PhilTRich

wow.. stop tilting?

thats the idea

[scandieslol]

Wow tilt really seems to be a huge factor!

And I'm betting after every session which you've tilted in, you think to yourself wow if I didn't lose those three buyins by playing like a tilting monkeyfish I'd be up a buyin instead of down two. IT SUCKS I KNOW! I've been there, but I've seen the light.

If you are honest with yourself I imagine that you definately can identify when you are tilting or are about to tilt. ie. crazy bad beat occurs and instantly you get pissed off and want to play every hand in an effort to get your money back off the idiot.
But you know by playing every hand its going to happen maybe only once in ten times that you are actually going to get your cash back off the guy.
Now while it is so sweet when you get your cash back off an idiot, ultimately tilting is negative ev. (Understatement of the year?)

So what did I do in my tilt monkey days? I tried everything from posting every bad beat I got in a bad beat thread to breaking countless computer mice.

I suppose finding a cure for tilt is a bit like porn, its all porn but some works for you and some doesn't.

Obviously to cure the tilt it all starts with admitting you have a problem, which you have done, so now its identifying the tilt when or before it occurs which I presume you can.

Then try the following
1. When you feel tilt starting, sit out and do the alphabet backwards allowed, ie. ZXYWV... this doesn't work if you have it in front of you, its designed to take your mind of what just happened.
2. If this doesn't help, simply exit all poker software and stop playing. I'd bet my house that 95% of the time any time you tilt, even if you come out of the tilt it didnt make up for the tilt period.
3. Post all beats in a bad beat thread, it didnt work for me but it might work for you.
4. Talk to someone on MSN or Aim when the beats occur, you will stop focusing on them, probably play a bit on autopilot but it will be better then tilting.
5. Have a tommy tank, take the tilt frustration out on yourself, clean up and you are back in the game.

6. The ideal thing to do (it takes a lot of self control) is: When a bad beat occurs, think to yourself "wow! What an idiot, I can take all this guys money. Long term I am so much better then him, so I'm going to play my A game, he will make a mistake sometime, maybe not today, maybe not tommorrow but he will, and I will get my money back and then some."

Hopefully one or a combination of these will work for you, it worked for me and now I never ever tilt playing online. It's a great feeling.