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Old 11-19-2007, 11:34 PM
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Efficent,

Other than going back and reviewing a session afterwards, and having the person say (damn!), I can't think of anything. Can you?
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:34 PM
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Tilt: The taking of one or more actions that deviate from one's normal behavior (one's understanding of poker theory and it's applications) that is influenced by emotion or any other abnormal cause that deviates from logical thought.
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:36 PM
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Guys,

I think what Efficent means is that we need to have something to measure tilt in a number form.

By defining hot at an actual temperature (90 degree+), we will objectively know when it is "hot".

Another example is long. If we say a long distance is more than 1 mile, then we know every time something is long and is not. If we say long is a distance that I don't feel like walking, then it's subjective, and cannot be pointed out by the definition alone.
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:46 PM
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If a player is asked if emotions affected his decision making over a specified period of time and he agrees with the statement, this player was affected by tilt.
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:50 PM
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It is impossible (I am certain) to quantify tilt in a number form.
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:48 AM
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If a player is asked if emotions affected his decision making over a specified period of time and he agrees with the statement, this player was affected by tilt.
Do you think that emotions can affect your decisions without you realizing it?

Is it possible that emotions haver ever contributed to your making a wise decision?
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:50 AM
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It is impossible (I am certain) to quantify tilt in a number form.
"If something exists, it exists in some amount. If it exists in some amount, it can be measured." -Thorndike
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Old 11-20-2007, 01:02 AM
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... is influenced by emotion or any other abnormal cause that deviates from logical thought.
Same questions I addressed to cwar, how can you tell that a deviation from normal thought was caused by emotion.

Can you attribute every bad decision you have made at the tables to tilt?
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Old 11-20-2007, 01:10 AM
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Same questions I addressed to cwar, how can you tell that a deviation from normal thought was caused by emotion.

Can you attribute every bad decision you have made at the tables to tilt?
No, but it was either tilt or flawed understanding of poker theory. If I was in a spot where there was a correct play and I didn't take it because I was ignorant of the correct decision then it isn't tilt. If I knew the correct action, but acted another way then it is tilt.
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Old 11-20-2007, 01:26 AM
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No, but it was either tilt or flawed understanding of poker theory. If I was in a spot where there was a correct play and I didn't take it because I was ignorant of the correct decision then it isn't tilt. If I knew the correct action, but acted another way then it is tilt.
This might be a promising line of thought. What percentages of the decisions you make it poker do you think are clearly mathematically right or wrong?

And the follow-up, what percentage of those purely mathematical decisions can you correctly calculate given the playing conditions?

I think your saying if you make the wrong decision when you 'know better' then it was caused by emotion and is therefore tilt. Im wondering how many decisions are clearly wrong and how often there is really no reason for making that decision other than being on tilt.

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