$1/2 deep, monster draw

[Bazclef]

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($585.10)
UTG+1 ($197.00)
Hero ($384.00)
BTN ($199.10)
SB ($122.17)
BB ($468.55)

Pre-flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is CO Q K
UTG raises to $7, 1 fold, Hero calls $7, BTN calls $7, SB raises to $19, BB calls $17, UTG calls $12, Hero calls $12, BTN calls $12

Flop: J 6 A ($95, 5 players)
SB goes all-in $103.17, BB calls $103.17, 1 fold, Hero?

Villain is 21/14/3, a decent reg. He snap calls the guys flop shove. I figure I fold his AK, but then I think he's shove AK here :S

Call or shove?

[DirtySanchez80]

call is nonsense.. if u don't mind variance then push it u have enough equity imo

Hand 0: 38.717% { KcQc }
Hand 1: 55.560% { AA, JJ, AKs }
Hand 2: 05.723% { AQs+, AQo+ }

[btimm]

At first I thought it was a call as I think you get paid off if you hit, but I don't like calling to see the turn and missing and then being forced to fold if the BB bets. Since the BB snap called, I would shove, because I think he raises a set here all day. He would certainly be reraising AK preflop, so I doubt he has that. I think BB's range is gonna be JJ, 66, and draws. Since he has 6 combinations of JJ and 66 and a ton more draws, I don't mind shipping it in.

I'd be interested in seeing what the pros thought about this hand.

[flaviusO]

Actually I fold... Is not that of a monster... only 12 outs and BB I think is trapping here.. even though his range is so small I think it is JJ, 66 and 7c6c

Board: Ac Jc 6h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 37.128% 37.13% 00.00% 2573 0.00 { KcQc }
Hand 1: 62.872% 62.87% 00.00% 4357 0.00 { JdJh, JdJs, JhJs, 6c6d, 6c6s, 6d6s, 7c6c }

And you have to put 365 for a 928.17 (39% equity).. Thinking that there will be times he'll fold I think you should shove, but I'm too chicken and I might tilt if he shows me 76s and it holds... lol

[Bazclef]

Originally Posted by btimm

At first I thought it was a call as I think you get paid off if you hit, but I don't like calling to see the turn and missing and then being forced to fold if the BB bets.

This is pretty cruical imo, and why I think it's a shove.

[Bazclef]

Originally Posted by flaviusO

Actually I fold... Is not that of a monster... only 12 outs and BB I think is trapping here.. even though his range is so small I think it is JJ, 66 and 7c6c

Board: Ac Jc 6h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 37.128% 37.13% 00.00% 2573 0.00 { KcQc }
Hand 1: 62.872% 62.87% 00.00% 4357 0.00 { JdJh, JdJs, JhJs, 6c6d, 6c6s, 6d6s, 7c6c }

And you have to put 365 for a 928.17 (39% equity).. Thinking that there will be times he'll fold I think you should shove, but I'm too chicken and I might tilt if he shows me 76s and it holds... lol

I think BB is trapping too, but AK is still in his range, I'd give him like a quarter of the AK combos or something, which will take it over the shove line I'd imagine.

[Unknown Soldier]

call for sure, bb obv has a good hand, look at pf.

[flaviusO]

I missed that... He cold called the squeeze... He could be easily have AA, AK

[btimm]

Yeah, I missed it too, definitely makes it a call now. Oops for missing such an important piece of information.

[flaviusO]

That's why they are pros... they don't miss a thing