100nl, betsizing

[flaviusO]

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Hand 1
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BB: $113.00
UTG: $425.10
Hero (MP): $205.00
CO: $265.70
BTN: $113.35
SB: $101.95

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP with 8 8
1 fold, Hero raises to $3.50, 1 fold, BTN calls $3.50, SB calls $3, 1 fold

Flop: ($11.50) 8 K 3 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $7, BTN folds, SB calls $7

Turn: ($25.50) 2 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $16, SB calls $16

River: ($57.50) 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $41, SB folds
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Against a fish 56/23, AF 1.2(3.4 on river) over 900 hands..

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Hand 2
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SB: $180.50
Hero (BB): $165.30
CO: $103.20
BTN: $100.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with 8 A
1 fold, BTN raises to $2.50, SB calls $2, Hero calls $1.50

Flop: ($7.50) 9 8 K (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $6, SB raises to $12, Hero calls $12, BTN folds

Turn: ($37.50) 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $37.50, SB folds
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Against the same fish

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Hand 3
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BB: $82.10
Hero (CO): $207.75
BTN: $98.75
SB: $169.20

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with A K
Hero raises to $3.50, 1 fold, SB calls $3, BB calls $2.50

Flop: ($10.50) 2 K 7 (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $5, Hero calls $5, SB folds

Turn: ($20.50) 8 (2 players)
BB bets $10, Hero calls $10

River: ($40.50) 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $30, BB folds
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Against a 42/0 AF 2.9 over 60 hands only

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Hand 4
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BTN: $93.35
SB: $45.75
BB: $50.80
UTG: $113.25
MP: $66.00
Hero (CO): $132.90

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with Q Q
2 folds, Hero raises to $3.50, BTN calls $3.50, SB calls $3, 1 fold

Flop: ($11.50) 5 Q 6 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $7, BTN calls $7, SB folds

Turn: ($25.50) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $14, BTN folds
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Against a 40/7 AF 0.8 over 140 hands...

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Hand 5
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CO: $133.60
BTN: $119.75
SB: $128.55
Hero (BB): $173.90
UTG: $107.45
MP: $100.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with 9 A
UTG calls $1, 1 fold, CO calls $1, 2 folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($3.50) 2 J T (3 players)
Hero bets $3, UTG calls $3, CO folds

Turn: ($9.50) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $7, UTG calls $7

River: ($23.50) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $162.90 all in, UTG requests TIME, UTG folds
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Against a 38/3 AF 1.2 over 111 hands

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Hand 6
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BB: $282.00
Hero (UTG): $203.00
CO: $245.30
BTN: $69.60
SB: $144.90

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG with 6 6
Hero raises to $3.50, 1 fold, BTN calls $3.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($8.50) Q 6 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $6, BTN raises to $12, Hero raises to $18, BTN folds
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Against a 35/14 over a v small sample

I played a session earlier and I ran hot but I think I played poor... Could you guys tell me if you notice some leaks in my betsizing? Thanks for reading and giving some thoughts

[RiverRock55]

Hand 1: I think cbetting 8 or 9 here will have no effect on his calling/raising range so would do this.. Same as on turn I think you could have made it 18 and have the same effect.. And in this spot on the river I think a bet closer to full pot may actually get looked up more than your 3/4 pot bet,, looks bluffy..

Hand 2: Meh, id make it 36 or 37 even here, the 37.5 exact pot looks funny to me but thats just my opinion,, but generally we gotta be potting it were deep w/ the nuts against fish..

Hand 3: I think I like raising the turn here for a variety of reasons.. as played I think he will call 33/34 as often as he's calling 30 on the river but thats just my subjective opinion..

Hand 4: this hand seems fine to me

Hand 5: tough to say if he will call that overshove w/ Kd or not,, Im guessing no so would probably bet 2/3 pot trying to get value from the Kd and Qd and maybe a rangdom 2pair once in a while, haha.. Clearly if he's ever calling that overshove with the Kd its the best play though,, but he seems to passive.

Hand 6: seems fine, I'm guessing your trying to induce him to shove which isn't a bad line here imo..

[btimm]

Most of it is fine, the only thing I would say is I would increase the size of the turn bets a bit. Seems you are betting about 60% pot, I would bump that up to like 70% or even 80%, depending on villain.

[flaviusO]

What about cbets? Should I make them bigger... Usually I tend to make them about 5$ in a 7$-8$ pot, 6$ in 8$-9$, 7$ in 9$-11$, 8$ in 11$-12$, 9$ in 12$-13$... Should I put 1$ more for each pot?

[btimm]

I put roughly 80% into flops as a general rule, so my distribution would be something like this:

5 into 6, 5 into 7, 6 into 8, 7 into 9, 8 into 10, 9 into 11, 10 into 12, 11 into 13

Although, if I expect that I will double barrel, I often bet slightly less, so I can be slightly more on the turn if a good double barrel card comes. It is worth experimenting with imo.

[pikkupossu]

Originally Posted by btimm

5 into 6, 5 into 7, 6 into 8, 7 into 9, 8 into 10, 9 into 11, 10 into 12, 11 into 13

this is terrible if its your 'standard line'

do you consider board texture?
the type of villian?
villians calling range?
your hand value vs villians calling range?
your position in the hand?

sounds like you play like a bit of a robot imo.

[Fuzzy Logic]

^^^ As pikkupossu says, your c-bet sizing should primarily be based on board texture and type of villain, i.e.how much of the flop did their range hit.

As for the hands,

1: Flop calling range is inelastic so could make it a small bit bigger but its not terrible. Standard 3 streets imo.

2: potting is meh, i really wanna bet smaller, like 25, giving the illusion that they have fold equity with their Q as their semi-bluff and we have position if they flat call.

3: Raise flop to donk. Defo raise turn.

4: Meh, fine, he was most likely floating flop or had a random PP or 6x. Not much to say really

5:He needs to have the K exactly for this to work. THat happens so rarely that its better to slightly overbet the pot like $30 and hope he calls with T+.

6: Villain has 70BB's and your hand is basically a lock. Flat flop to raise. Pot will be $32.5 and he has $54 so any turn bet commits him. 3 betting that flop. he should be folding JJ, QT etc.

[btimm]

Originally Posted by pikkupossu

this is terrible if its your 'standard line'

do you consider board texture?
the type of villian?
villians calling range?
your hand value vs villians calling range?
your position in the hand?

sounds like you play like a bit of a robot imo.

Maybe note that when I say as a general rule, that leaves exceptions for all things noted. I would think a little more about a post you read before deciding to be condescending.

[pikkupossu]

saying im condescending is whatever
im pointing out a leak, and a pretty big one in most players games.
before i fire any board, im considering all of the above. there is no 'rule of thumb' or 'general rule' its answering all of those questions and then selecting a bet size.

the solution is rarely bet more, its bet an amount that will give you the most information about villians hand thereby allowing you to play the turn and the river optimally whether it be extracting value, making them fold or making them make a mistake.

forgot to reply to OPs stuff

hand 1: fine. if you think he plays Kx like this river bet is fine. against these type of fish that spaz river bet anytime you check the turn, i dont mind checking the turn and jamming over their river bet. i mean you have the board completely crushed and he doesnt fold Kx to the river jam either. he might even hero call with 99 or something cause you'd never check back the turn with Kx either.
hand 2: lead flop, as played 3 bet flop and dont fold.
hand 3: raise turn. hes drawing to spades.
hand 4: i can see myself betting less on the turn
hand 5: i thinking shoving is overkill, i like a 'block bet' size on the river. something like 10, give him rope to either make a move cause he thinks you are weak, or call down with a weird holding.
hand 6: meh dont hate it dont love it. if theres a spot to click it back, this is definitely on of them. flatting is fine too. as long as you find a way to put money in you are fine, say flatting and min betting a brick on the turn if you think villian will spaz is fun