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Old 09-06-2010, 02:55 PM
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Default 100nl flopped flush, best line vs donk

Villain was new to the table and currently has stats of 16/6 over 30 hands. Has donked 3/3 times

I flop the flush and raise his flop donk on the low board, I think his range for leading is extremely wide and the value side is made flushes, sets, straights and xAc.

I believe the turn to be a good card for me as any A makes a straight, as does a 6 and a hand with the A of clubs is going nowhere.

Do you play it the same?
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Hero (MP): $149.20
CO: $114.25
BTN: $98.50
SB: $139.81
BB: $182
UTG: $59.20

Pre-Flop: T 9 dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG folds, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, SB calls $2.50, BB folds

Flop: ($7) 4 5 3 (2 Players)
SB bets $3.50, Hero raises to $14, SB calls $10.50

Turn: ($35) 2 (2 Players)
SB bets $26.25, Hero raises to $132.20 and is All-In, SB calls $96.56 and is All-In

River: ($280.62) 9
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Old 09-06-2010, 03:02 PM
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Default Re: 100nl flopped flush, best line vs donk

I dunno whether I flat or raise the turn, probs raise tho and play the same.

You got it all in anyway which is great for us, what's the problem?
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Old 09-06-2010, 03:06 PM
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Default Re: 100nl flopped flush, best line vs donk

Just wonder if call/call is better as any bluff range is removed when we get it in on the turn
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Old 09-06-2010, 03:10 PM
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Default Re: 100nl flopped flush, best line vs donk

Ok that's cool (and an interesting spot). I just had this feeling you got it in and where unhappy because he had a higher flush or some shizz.

At the end of the day, he donks and you raise (showing strength). he then flats and then donks again (knowing too well you could very well raise him again). I doubt he is bluffing much here. The only times he is bluffing is with the Ac or something like that. I can't really see what else he is bluffing, so raising here makes it look like you are playing the Ac or Kc real fast (as it's hard to flop flushes so he thus doesnt believe you). He could have a straight, 2pair, a set, very little bluffs IMO.

As a result, raising the turn is definitely better IMO, and shove does make you look a lot more bluffy than a smaller raise, so gets you called by a wider range IMO.

Agree?
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Old 09-06-2010, 03:41 PM
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Default Re: 100nl flopped flush, best line vs donk

I think you have to play it this way. Another club rolling off would be disastrous imo, and there are a lot of hands villain may pay you off with--sets, straights, the ace of clubs (or maybe any ace).
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Old 09-06-2010, 11:58 PM
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Default Re: 100nl flopped flush, best line vs donk

NH. Played well.
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Old 09-10-2010, 09:38 AM
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Default Re: 100nl flopped flush, best line vs donk

Yea I'd jam the turn, I think he has very few bluffs once he donk calls the flop and donks that turn card strong, so I prefer getting it in on the turn. If I thought he had more bluffs I'd prefer call/call.
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