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Old 11-22-2008, 03:04 AM
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Default $100nl Nutted Hand Flop Play

Villain is 16/14/2.5 over 566 hands, with a 3bet of 8%. Preflop seems fine to me. I opted to shove to look kinda bluffy, maybe like a draw. Would you play the flop differently? Would you just flat the flop and hope to get value on the turn? Initially I thought I might get looked up a little lighter, as it might look like a draw, but I don't think there are too many hands that are lighter that will call even if they think it is a bluff. Thoughts?

$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
4 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
CO ($183.40)
Hero ($104.50)
SB ($119.35)
BB ($92.50)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 4 players) Hero is BTN Q A
1 fold, Hero raises to $3.50, 1 fold, BB raises to $11, Hero calls $7.50

Flop: Q 4 J ($22.50, 2 players)
BB bets $15, Hero raises to $93.50, BB folds
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Old 11-22-2008, 04:19 AM
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Default Re: $100nl Nutted Hand Flop Play

raise to 38. hope he shoves

ship turn if called
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Old 11-22-2008, 09:49 AM
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Default Re: $100nl Nutted Hand Flop Play

I would like it alot more if you just had the NFD. Here I agree with pikku, raise to ~$35 and hope he shoves. I dont mind flatting either but we really want him to bet turn so we can shove over him.
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Old 11-22-2008, 09:53 AM
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Default Re: $100nl Nutted Hand Flop Play

This is fine. As tight as villain is hes never going to 2nd barrel here with a hand he isn't willing to felt on this flop.
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Old 11-22-2008, 08:08 PM
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Default Re: $100nl Nutted Hand Flop Play

Shoving/making small raise both achieve pretty much the same thing on average without knowing about villain and/or history. Shoving may look bluffy to some oponents and small raises may make other opponents shove horrible hands/draws, w/e. I think it prob evens out readless.

If villain has seen me shove draws in similar spots then shove obv. Also if in a similar spot hes folded to any action (ie small raise or shove) i do the opposite here. If this isnt applicable then i do whatever i have seen the villain do with weak draws in the past.
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