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Old 10-05-2008, 05:15 PM
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Default $100nl Squeeze with AQo

$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
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Stacks:
UTG ($210.93)
UTG+1 ($71.00)
CO ($204.55)
BTN ($56.85)
SB ($149.32)
Hero ($97.50)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is BB A Q
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1, CO raises to $4.50, 1 fold, SB calls $4, Hero raises to $19, UTG+1 folds, CO raises to $44.50, SB folds, Hero folds

Initial villain who raises is 19/15/2.7 over 171 hands and is your standard TAG player, call him villain A. He seems to be aware of dyanamics imo. The cold caller (let's say villain B) is 82/64/3.3 over 42 hands and based on what I have seen I have no problem whatsoever of getting it in with him if he were to spaz out here. I figure villain A can be isolating here and doesn't need to have a hand and if he thinks villain B would call, he has position, so I don't think he has to be strong. Also, given that villain B is in the hand, villain A should never think I am squeezing light here, since I should not expect villain B to fold. Given my thoughts here and read on the situation, I have two questions. A) Should I make this squeeze in the first place or should I opt to just call and see a flop? I don't want the original limper to also call and play this hand 4-handed OOP, AQo just doesn't play well in that situation. But that doesn't mean squeezing is right either. Second question: Given what I think of the situation (which may or may not be right), is it right to fold to this 4bet or do I ned to get it in? I folded, as I expected him to be pretty strong and I don't think AQo would fare well against his range here, with villain B still to act. If it is AK, I don't even post the hand, but AQ figures to be significantly weaker than AK here obviously. Thoughts here?
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Old 10-05-2008, 05:46 PM
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Default Re: $100nl Squeeze with AQo

I'd 3bet pre. CO's opening range should be pretty wide, he'll likely fold a lot and SB will call leaving you in position on the flop. If you didn't 3bet I think you'd be missing a lot of value from SB.

Easy fold when CO 4bets.
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Old 10-05-2008, 05:56 PM
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Default Re: $100nl Squeeze with AQo

I usually don't like squeezing hands like AQo since when villain 4bets I will most of the time be unsure what to do. But here I think squeezing is pretty mandatory. You don't have a made hand yet but AQ has so so much value against this lunatic. And as you said the reg won't 4bet bluff too often here given the fact that he should expect you to squeeze just for value here w/ the donk in the pot. So squeeze and get it in w/ the donk and snap fold if the reg 4bets imo.
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Old 10-06-2008, 01:08 AM
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I'd normally squeeze here with a firm idea in my mind of whether I'm getting it in or folding if the CO 4-bets. You need to know this ahead of time. Does he 4-bet a lot or does he generally fold to 3-bets? Does he play very straight forward, or will he get paranoid that you're making a move and make a move back? Etc.

It's pretty much impossible for us to say whether it's a shove or a fold. You were playing with him, and you know the dynamics. To give some idea though, here's the maths...

Let's assume he's never folding (which should be definitely true). We have to shove $78.50 and the pot will be $201.50. So we'll need (78.5/201.5)x100 = 39.0% equity against his range.

If he has a range of something like AA-99, ATs+, AQo+, it'd be a shove.
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Old 10-06-2008, 07:34 AM
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I had it in mind before making the squeeze, I just wasn't sure if those thoughts were correct.
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Old 10-06-2008, 09:33 PM
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I think is a good fold.

Without the limper and bigger effective stack, would have been an excellent time for villain A to 4bet as a bluff and I would have done that a lot, but with the limper he just needs to risk more of his stack to do so, and with your stack he is never folding to a push, so best case scenario its a coinflip or he has you in bad shape.
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Old 10-08-2008, 02:46 PM
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I'd normally squeeze here with a firm idea in my mind of whether I'm getting it in or folding if the CO 4-bets. You need to know this ahead of time.
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