100NL unknown Fish

[Deception]

Hey

UTG is a Fish playing 45/15 no other reads so far

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($97.50)
Hero ($187)
UTG ($63.75)
UTG+1 ($272)
CO ($102)
BTN ($144)

Dealt to Hero K Q

UTG calls $1, UTG+1 raises to $4, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $3, UTG calls $3

FLOP ($12.50) 9 T K

Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks

I think Donking the Flop is a better play here. The reg has to put me on only value hands and will only raise me with stronger hands.

TURN ($12.50) 9 T K 6

Hero bets $11, UTG raises to $22, Hero ?


im ahead of so many draws but there are alot twopairs/str8 in his range that beats me... Just fold it or go ahead and stick it in?
i dont like calling his raise oop cause i dont know anything about his bluffingfrequency and if a check/call on the river would be good if it blanks.

[guitarizt]

idk what this line means from him and lines like this tilt me because he shouldn't ever have QJ here and idk if he even iso's 87s or 66 from these positions. There's not that many combos of them anyways and he should fold everything to a 3-bet probably with no dynamic. I don't hate calling turn check folding river because I think people do this enough with something like AT or JJ right?

[hopjesvlaa22]

I like to lead the flop as well, getting value from draws that utg might call with.

As played I b/f the turn. I believe fish will call with draws and raise with valuehands. He has 2pairs and straights here all day long.

[guitarizt]

Oops I thought utg+1 was the fish. Yeah as played I call turn check fold river. I think it's too likely he's freeze raising with JJ AT and I'm not worried about getting bluffed off obviously. You're almost getting odds to call against just AK, AA.

Board: Kc Tc 9d 6d
Dead:  

	equity 	win 	tie 	      pots won 	pots tied	
Hand 0: 	82.468%  	82.47% 	00.00% 	           508 	        0.00   { AA, AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 	17.532%  	17.53% 	00.00% 	           108 	        0.00   { KhQs }

[DRUK88]

Do you not think this is a fold pre OOP? We have KQoffsuit which makes a little difference, plus UTG opened who is a fish (so is unlikely to raise/folding much) and UTG+1 raise (likely knowing UTG isn't going to be raise/folding much).

I probably just b/f turn. I can see why b/c,c/c has merit, and tbh it's kind of a toss up for me. I just think (although it's not a great play) UTG could be nutted on the flop checking to the pfr or something.

Lines like this from villain tilt me too.

[JamesMa]

I assume you bet huge on the turn cuz you think the fish is a callstation so I'd fold to his raise. When you improve ahead with 2 pair or straights, he'll check back w/ a 4 card straight on board I assume so you dont have any implied odds really

[Kitsune101]

I think call turn isnt tt bad. I have seen many 45/15 that will mraise with weaker K or even Tx here for some reason unknown to me. I think they are trying to get value from draws or trying to showdown cheaply.

I think the days where fish only mraise the nuts are gone.

[MrBoefie]

Originally Posted by DRUK88

Lines like this from villain tilt me too.

Originally Posted by guitarizt

idk what this line means from him and lines like this tilt me

haha, I think we all agree on this. TILT!!!!!!

[Donktard]

Originally Posted by DRUK88

Do you not think this is a fold pre OOP? We have KQoffsuit which makes a little difference, plus UTG opened who is a fish (so is unlikely to raise/folding much) and UTG+1 raise (likely knowing UTG isn't going to be raise/folding much).

Stack sizes bro

I would probably just shove turn as fish do this with draws and he isnt folding and if he doesnt hit the river (45/15) are usually not bluffing.

[DRUK88]

Originally Posted by Donktard

Stack sizes bro

Doesn't this make it even more likely UTG+1 has a strong hand?