100NL - Wet board turn shove

[DRUK88]

V is 29/22 over 124 hands.

He has 86% cb 29% fold to cb. His 3b is 10% (50 hands) and 0% fold to 3bet (but this is only 1 hand).

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NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($100)
Hero ($174)
UTG ($194)
UTG+1 ($67.42)
CO ($106)
BTN ($110)

[/color]Dealt to Hero 8 Q

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $2, fold, Hero raises to $7, BTN calls $5

FLOP ($14.50) J T 6

Hero bets $8, BTN calls $8

TURN ($30.50) J T 6 9

Hero bets $18.50, BTN raises to $95.45 (AI), Hero ??

1) Do you 3b or flat pre?

I decided to 3b because I thought this was slightly too weak to call (even to a minr) and play OOP vs a guy who is likely LAGgy, will have initiative and I don't really have much history with him.

2) What is your plan for this hand?

I thought given the board texture, it is likely I probably have to go zero (maybe 1?) or three streets here? Going 1 folds out and pp's he flats (probably?) and maybe some Ax? However, he's gonna have too much QT, draws, Jx etc that if calls one street will also call turn.

I decided based on him potentially being wide pre, I have an overcard, bdfd and a gutshot that I should barrel off here?

3) What do you do on the turn?

Given we bink the turn and the board gets wetter, I think we must bet a little bigger. However, in light of this shove, no bdfd comes in, is this just KQ every time? Or do you think he can maybe play a set like this (call to slowplay/let me barrel off, when the board gets wetter shoves to protect or something?) Same applies to 2pair I guess. Can he maybe have a combodraw? I have seen people at 50NL shove turn here with combodraws but I'm not sure how much the games differ. Also, is there any possibility that he is just spazzing based on the fact that it is unlikely we have KQ (which is a relatively fair assumption). Again, I don't know how much the thinking here differs from 50NL?

[polak004]

I call it off here. Like you just don't know enough about villain to assume he only shoves KQ here and he can definitely shove worse for value hoping you're calling it off with AA/KK type hands.

As far as pre goes, I think you could go either way. Personally I would flat and look to c/r a lot of flops since he cbets flops so much.

You can barrel a lot of turns here and I'd be looking to fire a lot of rivers as well. Definitely don't think it's a one and done here.

[Kitsune101]

1. I think prefer a 3-bet. But i will make it $8.
2. With a gutter, an over and backdoor flushdraw I am certainly cbetting here. With your SPR, villain might call preflop with alot of speculative hands like small PP.
3. I call the turn. I dont think its KQ everytime, villain is surely capable of shoving for value here with much worst. ie sets or two pairs trying to stack your QQ+/AJ hands.

[ssells73]

1. It's close between 3b and call, I would think you can do both profitably here.

2. Betting more than one street, I think he floats this flop a dec amt, so extra pressure is good.

3. Def call it off, he can be shoving worse for value b/c he "doesn't know what else to do"

[DRUK88]

Regarding question 2), I think we all agree that we cannot be 1 and done here. However, I am not sure whether to go 2 or 3 here. I am aware that to go 2 streets requires a decent amount of info, I remember an aejones vid where he said that if you're not sure whether to go 2 or 3, go 3?