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10-04-2008, 12:00 AM
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100nl, what is the best line here?
UTG: $210.45
CO: $164.95
Hero (BTN): $137.40
SB: $106.10
BB: $105.05
Pre-Flop: T  J  dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG raises to $3.50, CO folds, Hero calls $3.50, 2 folds
Flop: ($8.50) 7  3  8  (2 Players)
UTG bets $7, Hero raises to $22, UTG raises to $74.50, Hero ??
It was against a 21/13 over 750 hands, most of them from DM. I think I should fold his 3bet, I have no FE. After a second look, most of the time he has here an OP, but also he could have AcKc, AcQc, AcJc.. What line would you take here? Thoughts?
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10-04-2008, 02:30 AM
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Re: 100nl, what is the best line here?
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt
31,680 games 0.031 secs 1,021,935 games/sec
Board: 3c 7c 8h
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.156% 40.11% 00.04% 12708 13.50 { JcTc }
Hand 1: 59.844% 59.80% 00.04% 18945 13.50 { JJ+, 88-77, 33, AcKc, AcQc }
If you shove, I don't think you have fold equity here either. You would be raising $111.90 more to win the $112 that is currently in the pot. You don't have the odds to shove against this range of hands for villain. The question then is whether this is too narrow of a range. If you add TT to his range, it only goes up to 41.4%. Adding 87 also only increases your equity to 41.5%. Seems you should fold. I am curious what others think of this range for the villain though. By the way, if you are at 100 BBs, this would be a shove, which I am pretty sure you knew.
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10-04-2008, 07:59 AM
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Re: 100nl, what is the best line here?
I think your range is pretty good btimm, I keep wanting to think of more hands to throw in there but can't vs. your average 21/13.
I'm curious what some might think of raising bigger on the flop here, making it like as big as $32 may make it easier to commit yourself and make calling correct(assuming he raises more because of your size).
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10-06-2008, 01:12 AM
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Re: 100nl, what is the best line here?
Don't raise if you don't want to stack off here. I would normally flat the flop and go from there. The problem with raise/calling is that you'll often find yourself getting in against a better flush draw if the money goes in on the flop. If I had the nut flush draw I would almost always raise, but with the J high I prefer a call.
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10-06-2008, 09:35 PM
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Re: 100nl, what is the best line here?
I would flat the flop also.
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10-07-2008, 09:55 AM
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Re: 100nl, what is the best line here?
yeah id flat vs this guy esp since he raised utg. As played put your chips in!
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10-08-2008, 02:52 PM
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Re: 100nl, what is the best line here?
Position is everything here. His range is certainly more narrow preflop than if he were on the CO and we were OTB. I'd just flat in this spot and play some poker against him -- but if I DID raise, that would commit me relative to the equity that I have.
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