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Old 02-10-2012, 02:52 PM
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Default 200NL 6max: AK bvb deep

Villain is playing 26/22 opening 34% in SB, folding 73% to 3bet overall. 17% 4bet, 90% cbet in 3bet pots (seems quite barrel happy as well). We played one specific hand against each other where I 3bet/5bet shipped JJ bvb 140BBs deep and he called it off with QQ.


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UTG: $203
MP: $214
CO: $120.53
BTN: $241.99
SB: $807.60
Hero (BB): $442.98

Pre-Flop: K A dealt to Hero (BB)
4 folds, SB raises to $6, Hero raises to $20, SB raises to $57, Hero calls $38

Flop: ($116) Q 7 2 (2 Players)
SB bets $52, Hero ???

This guy folds to 3bets a lot pre in general but only folded 1/2 bvb so not really a sample size. It's still a 3bet here even though he folds so much right? Do you like flatting the 4bet or 5bet/folding to like $108?

As played, I'm having a tough time putting him on a range here and am not sure how best to proceed, which might also be another reason for 5bet/folding pre. What might be the best line to take here?
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Old 02-10-2012, 05:12 PM
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Default Re: 200NL 6max: AK bvb deep

400bb deep MEEEEEEHHH

His QQ hand is completly standard, But he knows that you think he might 4bet worst then JJ. Then he might 6bet shove as a bluff. But that would be extremly wild..

What about folding to the 4bet and wait for a better spot? I would probably not do it though... I'd probably 5bet/fold.

Is it that bad losing 10bb, when you could lose your whole 400bb when, you flop top pair and stack off?
or lose 100bb when you 5bet/fold? Just asking!
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Old 02-10-2012, 06:47 PM
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Default Re: 200NL 6max: AK bvb deep

We're only 200bbs deep not 400 lol
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Old 02-10-2012, 06:53 PM
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Default Re: 200NL 6max: AK bvb deep

I assume youre gonna play QQ,KK,AQ and some KQ like this, so i dont think youre giving up anything by just folding this flop. He can easily barrel a ton of turns, and being unsure about his range i dont really wanna call two streets on pretty much any card.
I still like your call preflop tho, your range doesnt look particularly strong to me (depending on your image of course), and i doubt youre gonna lose your stack postflop (or would you?).
I also think 5b/folding can be way more exploitable than very occasionaly folding some rivers with tptk.
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We're only 200bbs deep not 400 lol
lol yeah, im a donk
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Old 02-10-2012, 11:35 PM
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I like calling the flop because it's a spot where his value range is SOOOO narrow, he probably doesn't even 4 bet QQ in this spot, certainly not JJ. Also your block AA/KK and the Q blocks some QQ. Makes it pretty likely he'll have something like 98s, or ATs, also I think he's more likely to flat AQ or KQ to your 3 bet than 4 bet them, at least AQ, he might 4 bet KQ, but I doubt it as it doesn't play very well in a huge pot oop when it can be dominated so much. So I would call flop and fold turn if he barrels again, by calling flop you rep Qx, sometimes KK, AA pretty well, I just don't think he's going to barrel turn too often so you should be able to get to showdown fairly well. I just think this is a spot deep where he thinks he can get a lot of fold equity preflop and then will just fire 1 with his air. Ofc if he expects you to float flop you're better off just folding flop probably, either that or calling 2/3 barrels with AK here, but that's pretty tricky.

This is the type of spot though against laggy players I've called down with AK high, and often it's been correct, depends ofc how much balls they have though with bluffing.
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