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Old 04-05-2008, 05:06 PM
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Default $200nl: Raise turn for thin value or get to SD?

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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SB: $102.30
BB: $124.25
UTG: $115.75
MP: $104.20
CO: $52.80
Hero (BTN): $100

Pre-Flop: J J dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, CO calls $1, Hero raises to $5, SB folds, BB calls $4, CO calls $4

Flop: ($15.50) 8 K K (3 Players)
BB bets $10, CO folds, Hero calls $10

Turn: ($35.50) 5 (2 Players)
BB bets $10

Results: $35.50 Pot ($35.50 Rake)

Villain is 34/16/3 -- is this a spot where I should be raising for value? I'm sure I can get to showdown easily if I just flat behind...
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Old 04-05-2008, 07:17 PM
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Does a worse hand call if you raise? Do they call a river bet as well?

Just let him bluff. You are wa/wb, just get w/e value you can by letting him v bet worse and bluff.
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Old 04-07-2008, 02:10 PM
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call flop, call turn, and call river (unless he pushes). If he checks, i think a small value bet would be good. He should pay off with small/middle pair or some type of 8X suited type hand.
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Old 04-07-2008, 04:55 PM
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min raise turn and half pot the river and get value from a8 and 99
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Old 04-08-2008, 07:56 AM
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I would simply go to showdown cheaply here. Let him bluff off his chips.
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Old 04-08-2008, 02:00 PM
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Got it -- thanks guys. I actually doctored the hand -- I had AK in this spot and raised the turn small; villain shoved over top and I called obv. He had a gutshot/flush combo and missed.

It got me to thinking how I would have played JJ/TT in this spot. I figured I'd prob be flatting TT down but could poss put in a raise with JJ to get value out of 8's and smaller pocket pairs as well as charging flush draws he picked up (unlikely). Also, it got me thinking to how I would have reacted to a 3bet shove with JJ (puke, fold).
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