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Old 09-03-2010, 02:48 PM
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Default 200nl turned nuts on drawy board

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MP: $281.20
CO: $275.50
Hero (BTN): $200
SB: $228.25
BB: $255.50
UTG: $418

Pre-Flop: T J dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, CO raises to $6, Hero calls $6, SB folds, BB calls $4

Flop: ($19) 8 6 Q (3 Players)
BB checks, CO bets $14, Hero calls $14, BB folds

Turn: ($47) 9 (2 Players)
CO bets $32

edit: looking back on this flop is prolly a fold. thoughts on that street too?
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Old 09-03-2010, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: 200nl turned nuts on drawy board

Preflop standard? Seems like you are leaving yourself open to all kinds of things by flatting that hand on the button. Probably fold flop with one behind to act as well.
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Old 09-03-2010, 05:37 PM
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Default Re: 200nl turned nuts on drawy board

Preflop, I would call if it was soooooooted, but otherwise I fold (or 3bet...) against this opponent. I think you have to either fold or raise the flop. There is probably an answer to this if you look at your overall gameplan when calling offsuit connectors oop. It just adds so many combinations of hands that you will be calling with from the BTN preflop, you will have to be raising the top portion of your range that you can't just call with (ie, gutshot + bdfd) or something like that. I like a call on the flop least of all.

I think you should raise the turn now that you got there. If he has anything like a set or 2pair or NFD, he won't be folding. If he doesn't have anything, he won't be putting in any more money on the river.
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Old 09-03-2010, 06:49 PM
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Default Re: 200nl turned nuts on drawy board

you butchered this hand pre and on the flop imo. pre it's a 3bet for sure and the flop it's a fold. as played I like calling because I think he's gonna 3barrel a lot, the only question is when a spade/diamond hits if it's a jam or a call depending on his timing and betsize.
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Old 09-03-2010, 07:08 PM
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pf is super standard for me with no squeezers in the blinds and a looseish CO opener. can't imagine folding
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Old 09-03-2010, 07:12 PM
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Default Re: 200nl turned nuts on drawy board

so you wanna play a multiway pot with no relative position with JTo? hmm..
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Default Re: 200nl turned nuts on drawy board

pre is mehh, if theres no squeezers in the blinds and/or weakplayers/fish then its prob fine, 3betting would be fine too and probably better.

Id just raise the flop, 3 way your gonna get a decent amount of respect Id imagine.

Flat turn, if he is good he will be triple barreling ALOT as a bluff here, becoz when you call/call you have tons of hands like 88 and the like, which he will try to make you fold, he will also vbet fairly thinly on the river I would assume if he is good so your not losing value by flatting, anything which calls a turn raise probably vbets the river .
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Old 09-05-2010, 06:39 AM
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fold pre, raise flop (even though his 3way cbetting flop on this board will be fairly strong) - barrel spades/overs, maybe sometimes blanks. calling is just bad (unless you wanna raise the turn, but than you don`t rep sh*t, unless you raise spades)
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