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Old 07-07-2008, 09:32 PM
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Default AA - flop is a paired board - stack off ?

Villan is bad and is happy to call down and stack off with TP, hes stats are like 77/30/2.5

Most of my stack are from him by calling me with some trash, but he took some of the money of me before. So you can say the money goes around the table all the time here.

Now can I stack off here with AA knowing he is a donk and can have any random **** ?

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BTN: $100
SB: $137.05
BB: $178.85
Hero (UTG): $209.45
CO: $99

CO posts $0.50
Pre-Flop: A A dealt to Hero (UTG)
SB calls $1, BB calls $1, Hero raises to $5.50, 2 folds, SB calls $4.50, BB folds

Flop: ($13.50) 7 9 7 (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $9.50, SB calls $9.50

Turn: ($32.50) 6 (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $25, SB raises to $50, Hero calls $25

River: ($132.50) J (2 Players)
SB bets $72.05 and is All-In, Hero calls $72.05
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Old 07-07-2008, 09:57 PM
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I honestly think that turn min raises form guys like this are always very strong hands. the only time I go against that is if I have a read that it won't be (i.e. he's done it often, or he overvalues a hand like TT here). I honestly think you can fold the turn against most donks, and I'd probably fold the river if I did call the turn. It might sound too tight or whatever, but I can't remember being in too many spots where these turn min raises don't have AA beat here (without a read).
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Old 07-07-2008, 10:26 PM
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Check behind on turn. Fold to min-raise. Calling turn leads you to call a lot of rivers too when you are way behind.

As played fold river too
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Old 07-08-2008, 12:25 AM
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I don't like a check on the turn here against a player who will overvalue and call with worse. Though based on his stats what is he 3betting? Does that basically remove JJ+ from his range? 1010+? I like a bet on the turn and fold the turn unless you had a read that he would play 1010+ this way, which I highly doubt.
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Old 07-08-2008, 01:09 AM
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Yea actually, I would bet/fold that turn. Not sure what I was thinking when I said check behind.
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Old 07-08-2008, 03:15 AM
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no, don't call a minraise. turn minraise, shove river = set+++ from a fish 98% of the time. pure baluga on the turn btw
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Old 07-08-2008, 05:29 AM
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cbet size is a little small, he's going to be floating with a wide range so extract as much as possible now. bet/fold turn looks good without a very a good read that he's getting way out of line here.
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Old 07-17-2008, 10:30 PM
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Agreed that C bet is too small. Agreed that turn check-raise = nuts at this level. River shove = ultinuts. Laydows like this are damn near impossible for me, but I think I will have to learn.
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Old 07-17-2008, 11:30 PM
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I would say that calling ranges are quite inelastic on that flop tbh, in that the size of the cbet is somewhat irrelevant to altering his calling range. So in that respect I think its fine.
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Old 07-18-2008, 08:18 AM
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I would say that calling ranges are quite inelastic on that flop tbh, in that the size of the cbet is somewhat irrelevant to altering his calling range. So in that respect I think its fine.
he's not talking about the calling range. it is inelastic, but the amount that will be called varies relative to board texture. on this board he'll call for more; not a terribly important point, but you can make the cbet bigger (could probably pot it) and it won't affect his calling frequency too much.

edit: this is a 7 a large % of the time and the other times it's probably 66
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