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Old 07-18-2008, 09:17 PM
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Default AA vs checkraise shove on very wet board.

This player just sat at the table for about ten hands and this spot came up. Call or fold and why?

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BTN: $21.50
SB: $315.95
BB: $141.30
UTG: $120.60
Hero (CO): $137.90

Pre-Flop: A A dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG raises to $3, Hero raises to $12, 3 folds, UTG calls $9

Flop: ($25.50) J T 9 (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $23, UTG raises to $108.60 and is All-In, Hero
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Old 07-18-2008, 09:28 PM
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Wow, assuming he's decent let's just stove his range vs you.

Board: Jd Th 9h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 28.081% 27.59% 00.62% 3276095 73804.00 { AcAs }
Hand 1: 71.919% 71.63% 00.62% 8505952 73805.00 { KK-99, AhKh, AhQh, AhJh, KQs, KQo }


Maybe thats too narrow but I'm not gonna put any pure air hands in there b/c I don't think those are ever part of his range. So, I fold.
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Old 07-18-2008, 09:45 PM
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Stats and reads help, but in this case a flip is the best you can hope for. Fold.
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Old 07-18-2008, 10:17 PM
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Insta muck imo
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Old 07-19-2008, 03:06 AM
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Fold, reasons already noted.
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Old 07-19-2008, 07:50 AM
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I think you can add in most AQo hands as well has AJ, QJs, and JTs, but you should also discount KK since sometimes he'll 4bet that. We need 36% equity to make this call and only against the widest of ranges are we even breaking even.

We're actually in a lot worse shape than I would have guess to. When I'm not playing my A game I call this
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Old 07-19-2008, 01:35 PM
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such a derrty flop. just check behind, your equity will likely improve on the turn and by betting you let your opponent shove his draws that you beat.
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Old 07-19-2008, 06:48 PM
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Yeah I think this is a check behind on the flop, get to showdown cheaply on this board.
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Old 07-22-2008, 11:28 AM
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i prefer bet/folding this flop .. giving free cards is not in my play book .. if he reraise/shoves - then i can easly fold.

If I check and he leadsout for pot what do you do ? call cose he can have TP ? overpair ?

nah ... just bet/fold if he shoves as you did
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Old 07-22-2008, 01:30 PM
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olys range is too narrow, fistpump call
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