Countering a loose 3bettor that's aggro postflop

[Bazclef]

villain is 24/20/4 with a 3bet% of 12

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($84.15)
CO ($676.25)
Hero ($434.15)
SB ($433.50)
BB ($383.55)

Pre-flop: ($3, 5 players) Hero is BTN 5 4
2 folds, Hero raises to $7, 1 fold, BB raises to $22, Hero calls $15

His 3betting range here is wide and my hand has good value so I think calling here is best. It should be noted that villain is very aggressive postflop as well as preflop.

Flop: J 5 3 ($45, 2 players)
BB bets $45, Hero calls $45

If I raise him here he's likely to think I'm full of it, although he'd have to stick all of his chips in to find out. I think probably raise/fold here is pretty good, despite my hand having some value.

Turn: K ($135, 2 players)
BB bets $67.50, Hero calls $67.50

This card is pretty nasty. I think he's likely to barrell it, so I call again... but I'm not so confident about my hand now. Maybe I should shove at this point? I'd probably fold out any J, and underpair, etc? If I call here do I basically have to call river?

River: 7 ($270, 2 players)
BB bets $249.05, Hero folds

Bleh, he shoves river, I don't see how I can call...

Final Pot: $519.05
Hero lost -$134.50


I don't think I played this hand too well... any input would be great. Cheers!

[ascension1223]

I don't like this hand, first of all what is the sample size on the % 3bets? Secondly, you're hand does not really have any value, as you said he would have to stick in his chips to find out if you're full of it, and often times people think you may be full of it, but won't commit their stack to find out. As such, you HAVE to raise/fold this flop, if you call you can ONLY continue (in my opinion) with an improvement on the turn, or a great bluff card. I don't like bluff-shoving the K either. His sizing is really bizarre though, a PSB, 1/2 pot, shove. Seems like he was pricing for a river shove so I think he actually had a hand here he wanted to stick in on the river by making you call the smallish turn bet, and then commiting you to a bad call on the river.

[TheLuskenator]

Just fold the turn

[DODGYKEN]

If he's going to be really aggro postflop then I dislike calling with a hand like 54s. You're not even going to make middle pair very often. Against a guy like this you want to defend with cards that can make top pair (so you can call him down), or good middling connectors (like JTs-98s).

Postflop, I'd fold the turn to because it's so hard to do anything and your hand is so well defined on the flop. But it's best to try and stay out of situations where you're going to be put in spots like this. Try and get to the flop with a hand that can make a hand where you can call him down.


EDIT: Noticed you're deep. This makes the preflop call better, although I think folding is still fine. It may be better 4-betting preflop.

[Thrush]

The double float is pretty bad. Turn is a fold for sure. I'd even rather shove the turn than call.

[Bazclef]

I like the idea of 4betting pre with this sort of small SC hand. Good thoughts on flatting with bigger cards to be able to make a calldown too.

I disagree with raising flop really. I'd be turning my hand into a bluff and don't really fold out any better hands. I'd expect villain to continue with even stuff like 77. I think flatting flop is best, and folding turn. My double float wasn't a great idea as it puts me in a terrible spot on the river.

[SomeRandomBadger]

Preflop call is ok with stacks. I just peel the flop and fold turn here.

Also you have to be carefull with sample sizes when using the 3bet stat as it will take a while to converge. Even if it is correct he can easily be making the vast majority of light 3bets in position rather than from the blinds.

[elzino]

i think it's important when using the 3bet stat to decide future action that you note where most of his 3bets are coming from. what i mean by that is he 3betting equally from CO, BTN, sb, bb. or is he 3betting CO raises a ton from the button and playing pretty straight up OOP. just something to consider.