Live 1-3 @ wynn preflop.

[sickbrag]

This is a play i dont usually make i'm jw if you guys think its +ev.

7 handed 1-3 game @ wynn. everyone's stack is between 200-400.
The table just started with all new players about the 20th hand.
I'm in the BB with (7-7)
Guy straddles to UTG to $6
3 people call (C.O, Button, SB)
I raise to $33.
Everyone folded.

But i was arguing with my roommate who play 200nl live for a living.
He says im putting to much at risk and im lucky everyone folded plus im in a awkward spot if called.
I disagree i im risking $30 to win $24 which doesn't seem to bad.
And i feel im only going to get called around 30% of the time.

Let me know what you guys think.
Thanks.

[PutMyRobeOnRITE]

I suppose what you did is +EV, but is it more +EV to set mine against these guys? Probably.

[Vitas23]

From my experience I am also surprised everyone folded, rarely do ppl limp fold, much rather call the straddle and fold. I don't mind the play but I prefer to call the 3 and hope to hit a set.

[polak004]

Your friend is right. Squeezing 77 live, unless it's a shove, is not going to be more profitable than just flatting and trying to stack someone when you flop a set. You're going to get flatted a lot and see tons of overcards, usually multiway and with little equity to VB or barrel as a bluff.

Also, where did you get the 30% from?

[mythrilfox]

i don't like the raise, mostly because i expect you will get called a lot and be in shit spots postflop unless you hit a set. and juicing the pot for when you hit your set is pointless because you are not very deep, especially with the straddle on.

so i agree with your buddy. if you have to buy him a drink as a result of this thread, MY BAD

[fatsally]

Originally Posted by polak004

Your friend is right. Squeezing 77 live, unless it's a shove, is not going to be more profitable than just flatting and trying to stack someone when you flop a set. You're going to get flatted a lot and see tons of overcards, usually multiway and with little equity to VB or barrel as a bluff.

Also, where did you get the 30% from?

30% is the read he has from his opponents actions thus far combined with how tightly he has played to start the session.
I also think its a little off the mark for our chief concern to be stacking someone in the first 3 orbits.We need to be more concerned about developing image and confirming our reads, this is a decent spot for both if mr. sick wants to take it.

[guitarizt]

tl;dr: Raising here might be more +ev with any two than set mining if you have a pp so I can see raising with 77.

If I'm reading weakness which even from the action preflop it sounds like they are I like your raise for reasons fatsally mentioned. If you do happen to get a caller or two a c-bet works so often anyways and I feel very comfortable postflop even with 77 because lol live poker. I can see what your roommate is saying being in an awkward spot if called, but people play so faceup postflop and are usually honest to c-bets so you don't have to worry about that so much.

In general I agree with vitas that I usually don't expect to get more than one fold here so I'd set mine. I hate 3-betting or iso'ing with mid to low pp unless I have a good reason to. If I felt a raise in your hand was good or close at the time then I don't hate doing it with 32o so it's fine with 77. People usually aren't looking to get into big confrontations early.

That being said it's 1/3 and I'd feel way more comfortable doing this at 2/5 where more people learn what folding is. Given that you have no info on how players are playing there's too great a chance that someone is horrible and calls too much with random things pre and on the flop and you kind of have to giveup. I think you can find a better spot.

I think doing either is fine but flatting is way safer. I would need to feel very comfortable with my reads on them pre that they were weak because 77 is one of the worst hands I would want to iso here yet it has so much value if you just call pre.