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Old 07-26-2012, 07:50 PM
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Default Live hand Set OOP.

Ok. Villain is playing like 92bbs, I just bought in for 120.

Deuces in the HJ and I raise pre and cbet versus 1 caller from CO. Flop comes Q72r, standard cbet/call. Turn brings a FD with a 4, I barrel obviously for just under pot. And river is a 5, completing a flush as well.

Without any information on villain, what's your standard play on river in this situation.
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Old 07-26-2012, 09:43 PM
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Default Re: Live hand Set OOP.

Live? I am shoving all day. You are getting called by any Qx in most cases.
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Old 07-27-2012, 05:06 AM
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Default Re: Live hand Set OOP.

Not too sure on stack sizes but I'm def betting river.
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Old 07-27-2012, 02:27 PM
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Default Re: Live hand Set OOP.

you bet/folding? stacksizes were kinda blurry as was like 4am in the morning just playing to kill time to get the first train home at 6am
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Old 07-29-2012, 03:14 AM
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Default Re: Live hand Set OOP.

After playing out the hand in my head I don't think we can ever bet fold river given the stack sizes. So lets say we are in a $1/$2 game and the villain started the hand with $184. (In the OP you said that you bought in for 120 which I'm assuming you mean 120bb and have the villain covered)

we open to $10, 1 caller plus the blinds. Pot is $23

We bet $15 on the flop, 1 caller. Pot is $53

Turn you said you bet just under pot. So let's say $45, 1 caller. Pot is $143

So now we get to the river with $143 in the pot and villain has $114 behind.

Betting $60 and folding would obv be terrible. As played with no reads I'm shipping river.

It also really depends on the villain and how good you think they are. My live strategy is very dependent on reads, level of my opponents, and game flow. I can sometimes gauge the strength of villains hand based on their level of comfort, how fast/slow they are calling the bets, hands they have shown down previously etc. Also fwiw I sometimes limp pre with 2's - 5's in some games.
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Old 07-29-2012, 07:43 PM
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Default Re: Live hand Set OOP.

If I'm reading the hand right (which I'm not 100% sure I am)....I ship the river
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Old 08-04-2012, 10:08 PM
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Default Re: Live hand Set OOP.

Thanks for the comments fellas, if I do post another live hand will make sure the info is more detailed - so its easier to reply!! (However not sure if i need to as you pretty much soul read the hand Vitas),

1/2 game. eff stacks 92bbs.

I raise to 6, CO calls, (Pot 15). Flop Q 2 7 I bet like 10, he flats pretty quickly; doesnt look uncomfortable (pot 35). Turn 4 I bet 25, he thinks a little and calls calmly (pot 85), river 5 dude looks a bit like his gonna meh call with Qx but I dont love this river as it completes a few raggy backdoors and villain looks like a bit of a backdoor bandit degen!!! And he has like 83 behind after my 60 bet on river - so yeah I guess we have to bet/call and bet/folding is horrendous.
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Old 08-05-2012, 07:03 PM
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How did you end up playing the river?
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Old 08-06-2012, 03:56 PM
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Default Re: Live hand Set OOP.

Bet/called his delayed shove.... had to take a good few mins to convince myself to do so... at the time felt like a horrible spot - but with hindsight its pretty face up rly.
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