NFD on flop 3 way IP

[lostinthesaus]

Need help on all three streets.

Both players in the hand are standard taggish regs.


Holdem Manager No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Holdem Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($104)
BB ($113)
UTG ($56.40)
MP ($85.75)
CO ($100)
Hero (Button) ($154)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A, 8
1 fold, MP bets $3, 1 fold, Hero calls $3, 1 fold, BB calls $2

Flop: ($9.50) 10, 6, 2 (3 players)
BB checks, MP bets $6.33, Hero calls $6.33, 1 fold

Turn: ($22.16) 6 (2 players)
MP bets $11.08, Hero calls $11.08

River: ($44.32) 4 (2 players)
MP checks, HERO?....

[DRUK88]

is flatting pre std for you here? Could you perhaps ellaborate a little on why you think flatting here is better than 3betting or even folding? I could do with some help on that myself.

In terms of the hand, I think when he 2brls this turn he very likely has a value hand, so I don't really wanna bluff this river much.

His sizing is small on the turn, but I believe he shouldn't really bet that big on a turn that decreases his bluffing frequencies so much anyway so I don't think his sizing is bad. However, I do think it probably makes calling ok.

But yeah, on the river I pretty much always gonna checkbk here, I think he's checking river to c/c an awful lot, as draws miss and board pairing reduces your value combos.

[klink10k]

either check or overbet shove if u are feeling frisky

[lostinthesaus]

what about raising flop? What about raising turn as a few more 6s in my range than his?

[DRUK88]

Originally Posted by lostinthesaus

what about raising flop? What about raising turn as a few more 6s in my range than his?

I think if you raise flop your likely (at least perceived) to be imbalanced towards bluffs. Similar with the turn, although you perhaps rep slightly more value hands, I don't think it's significant enough to change his line, especially when i think he's not that light for 2barreling here anyway?

[Zaza]

fold or 3bet preflop. I think this is definitely too weak of a hand to be flatting here, I could see arguments for flatting a2345s if there s non squeezy regs in the blinds.
I like checking or overbet jamming river , if u bet a std amount its gonna be way too easy for him to click call imo.

[jonafern]

Originally Posted by Zaza

I like checking or overbet jamming river , if u bet a std amount its gonna be way too easy for him to click call imo.

agree. How successful do you think over betting this river would be against a standard TAG?

I check behind this as played. I fold this PF unless someone terrible is in blinds.

[grogheadflow]

PF you should give way more info on his fold to 3bet/ open % in this spot. I can't really think of many villains where I wouldn't 3bet this hand. Either they fold a ton....... (weee) or they flat OOP a ton.......... (weeee) etc. Numerous DB analysiseseses have shown little profit in flatting here VS today's squeezy blinds.

As played raising flop would be fine as a sort of leveller VS someone good or on whom we don't have info (ie, just can't be bad, but not optimal with info). VS someone definitely worse than us we have to call flop and do amazing things from there. Overbetting looks our only option to fold out Tx, but we win sometimes by checking.............

[digeri]

He's check/calling his value hands very often here. So unless you think he bluffs turn with Ace high and overs a lot I would just check it down with your hand.

[d2themfi]

Shove looks good. Almost all your hands that wil Value bet can do so as a shove anyways