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Old 12-28-2011, 03:12 PM
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Default NL 200 6max: Obvious is obvious?

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MP: $207.50
CO: $322.80
Hero (BTN): $248.85
SB: $250.45
BB: $203
UTG: $200

Pre-Flop: 5 5 dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, Hero raises to $4, SB folds, BB raises to $14, Hero calls $10

Flop: ($29) 9 Q 5 (2 Players)
BB bets $18.70, Hero raises to $37.40, BB calls $18.70

Turn: ($103.80) 4 (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $51.25, BB calls $51.25

River: ($206.30) 3 (2 Players)
BB bets $100.35 and is All-In, Hero ?



This Reg seems more aggro and Flop and Turn, but mostly pretty honest on the river.
My flopplay is an exploit vs. him b/c he does fold so rarely vs. a raise in a rr pot when his cbet got raised.
I know that gameplan-wise a flopcall is by far the best play -> as said, it was just a vacuum-exploit.

Some Hero-stats:
27/22/3,2/24
Fold to 3bet: 67%
Fold to cbet rr Pot: 49%
Raise cbet rr Pot: 11%
Agg in % Flop/Turn/River: 42%/31%/25%


@river:
Lol, what shall I say?
Regardless of what he has here, it is imo an incredible bad riverplay by his side - but what can you do? I have to deal with this ridic line anyways.
So yeah,
There are some str8draws busted, but imo almost no one can rly call my turnbet getting ~3:1 (something like a GS+1 OC or so, would imo fold at latest there).
JTo would likely not often 3bet, but more often call pre...

So to make a long story short: For it looks the vast majority of the timer like a Flush (even though it is hard to imagine that a REG would take such a bad line with a flush on the river...)
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Old 12-28-2011, 11:25 PM
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Default Re: NL 200 6max: Obvious is obvious?

3:1 odds with him having some AQ,KK,AA stuff played funny in his range = do not fold.
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Old 12-30-2011, 11:16 AM
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Default Re: NL 200 6max: Obvious is obvious?

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3:1 odds with him having some AQ,KK,AA stuff played funny in his range = do not fold.
yeah, but seriously - why in the hell he should jam here a Onepair which takes this line on the card which improves my bluffingrange pretty hard.
I mean, with a flush his nobbish thinking could be something like "I have the nuts, but he could checkback Onepairs when the FD came in, so I rather leadjam and hope he calls."

But what could be a noobish thinking regards to leadjamming here a Onepair in his shoes?
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Old 12-30-2011, 10:50 PM
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Default Re: NL 200 6max: Obvious is obvious?

He could want to get value from Qx
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Old 12-31-2011, 02:03 AM
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Default Re: NL 200 6max: Obvious is obvious?

This is ALWAYS A FLUSH, period (ok 95+%). Like a Nut Flushdraw or combodraw (usually flushdraw that picked outs on the turn) that he decided not to jam on the flop, and thinks it has enough odds on the turn.
Yes we need him very little nr of bluff combos/weaker value combos, but there is no way in the world he plays any value hand this way, or is turning JJ/TT into a bluff giving you these odds
I put him on 67dd or A2dd or 64dd and fold the river
i think its complete absurd to put him on AA/KK playing this way and jamming river to get value from Qx
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Old 01-04-2012, 08:15 PM
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Default Re: NL 200 6max: Obvious is obvious?

3bet pot + he just betcalled flop as opposed to bet/3bet + 3:1 on river + its poker on the computer = do not foldddddd
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Old 01-06-2012, 05:34 AM
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Default Re: NL 200 6max: Obvious is obvious?

Probably should be a fold but i always spite call and then rage in chat
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Old 01-06-2012, 12:57 PM
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Default Re: NL 200 6max: Obvious is obvious?

Why only min rise the flop?
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Old 01-10-2012, 10:32 AM
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Default Re: NL 200 6max: Obvious is obvious?

99 could also be a hand, the way you are betting means 98% of the time you havent hit the flush, pretty safe play from villain but still rather bad way of playing it. I think your crushed
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Old 01-20-2012, 02:42 AM
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Default Re: NL 200 6max: Obvious is obvious?

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3:1 odds with him having some AQ,KK,AA stuff played funny in his range = do not fold.
Do people really play those hands like that where they wouldn't just jam turn but they jam river when one of the worst cards in the deck hits? I know at micros this is a flush every time unless it's someone horrible calling with a gutshot or something oop and they want to turn it into a bluff.

I like raising the flop to 60 then you can jam turn. I don't think it should change his range too much and it's easier to get the money in most of the time in two streets instead of 3 imo. Especially since he doesn't fold to flop raises.
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