Shot @ 100NL - Turn Decision and Plan 4 River?

[preflopjitters]

Originally Posted by DRUK88

Ok so b/f flop is probably standard, but as played I bet $7.25 on the turn and the SB virtually SNAP-raises to $22.45 which IMO is so f strange do yall not think?

I mean, wtf is he checking the flop AND the turn which is raising for value on this card here??

Also, the timing, the fact it was basically an insta-raise, and the size too? I mean that's a pretty weird size don't ya think (it's a bit large IMO)? It's like a raise for protection, but everything that should be protecting here is betting big on the flop and/or turn.

So although we only have A high, should we still call because he is virtually repping nothing and it's so f fishy wot he's doing?

Sounds like you are levelling yourself here. If flop is a bet/fold, then turn can't be any different, imo. Your line seems kind of FOS anyway because what are you betting on the turn that you didn't bet on the flop?

[flaviusO]

you're def leveling yourself, he can play a set like this all day long

[DRUK88]

Originally Posted by preflopjitters

Sounds like you are levelling yourself here. If flop is a bet/fold, then turn can't be any different, imo.

I respectfully disagree. We now have WAY more information now it has been checked to us twice. If we a c/r'd on the flop then we kind of have to give up because there's so much he can have and he can barrel a lot on future streets and make us feel like shizz. However, on the turn, we bet for value here because basically it seems everyone has given up (or is drawing cheaply).

Originally Posted by preflopjitters

Your line seems kind of FOS anyway because what are you betting on the turn that you didn't bet on the flop?

I agree with this, which is why we can think a lot of this time his c/r is FOS too. When we are insta-c/r'd his line looks so FOS because I don't care who you are, if you have flopped a set you may go for a c/r on a wet flop sometimes, but when it doesn't come off you are virtually never going for it again on a blank turn, and I can't see any other value hand doing this.

Also, his size is so f weird. It's a combination of the speed in which he c/r and the size in which he did so that makes this really suspect IMO. I think a lot of the time he is just getting goofy here with a draw or complete air.

I mean (to everyone), what hands does he check the flop, and when everyone checks behind, decides to check again, but when a bet comes in, suddenly raise it more than 3x the bet? To me, this just seems like hes thought "this guys FOS" and shoves it in my face to get me to give up.

[DRUK88]

Anyway, I decided to call, planning to call anything we hit, anything that pairs the board, and nearly everything that doesnt bring 4 to a straight.

The 9c hit the river, and he insta-bet pot. Smelled really fishy, and he couldn't have been confident with the 9 coming unless he had a 9 (which I really doubt) or a set (which I also really doubt, 22 has some credibility but not much as I doubt it would check again).

Anyway, I decide to snap it off and he showed the Jd8d for a missed open ender. I felt like GOD after this call and should probs go in the gloats section, but upon analysis I am not sure whether my play here in the long run is a good one (despite my thought processes appearing correct in a vacuum).

[stockton]

we should just bet the flop. a lot of our range crushes this board and we are likely to get a reasonable amount of respect given that we are betting into a 3way pot.