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Old 11-22-2008, 08:14 PM
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thought it was a good spot to represent a monster

did i just get lucky or do you like this play?

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NL Holdem $2(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($209)
BB ($419)
UTG ($324)
Hero ($294)
CO ($77.40)
BTN ($43.15)

Dealt to Hero AQ

UTG raises to $6, Hero calls $6, fold, fold, fold, fold,

FLOP ($15) 6J7

UTG bets $10, Hero calls $10,

TURN ($35) 6J7T

UTG bets $25, Hero raises to $70, UTG calls $45,

RIVER ($175) 6J7T3

check, Hero bets $135, UTG folds,

Hero shows AQ

Hero wins $172
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Old 11-22-2008, 10:18 PM
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Default Re: is this spewy?

Type of villain helps, I think it comes down to whether you think they can make "big" folds vs you. I'm thinking that there is not many hands that he's calling the turn raise with there and folding the river with. I guess you probably fold out KQ/KJ/QJ/Q9, yea stats on villain would help though.
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Old 11-22-2008, 10:22 PM
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Default Re: is this spewy?

yeah i realized i didn't include them after i posted...he's about 25/22 ish...i don't think this would be a big fold..both straight draws and the flush made it...what could he possibly call with? he'd almost have to fold a set...doubt he would but might have to.
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Old 11-22-2008, 11:43 PM
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Default Re: is this spewy?

Tbh,, I not a huge fan of this play... If villian thought about it you really can't credibly rep a flush here, unless it was a flush draw that picked up pair or gutshot outs on the turn.. So the only real monster you are repping here is 89.. I think as a bluff it would work better if you could credibly rep the flush.. Despite this I do think you are folding out top pair and overpairs here, but think you may get looked up by twopairs and sets often enough to make this bluff too spewy..

Also against a Lag like villian I would be 3betting AQo in position preflop all day.. Also b/c you should be 3betting this hand I dislike the fact that you showed it.. If it was complete trash sure, but if this guy is smart he's gonna notice that you didn't 3bet him and could use this against you later..
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Old 11-23-2008, 05:36 AM
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Default Re: is this spewy?

i dont mind starting my bluff on the flop. its a board i raise a lot since my range will be Jx, 55-QQ, any straight draw. any flush draw. 67. overs with backdoor draws like KTdd.

take a look at villians VPIP/PFR from UTG. punch that into pokerstove. then figure out what % of that range is going to continue vs a raise on this board. if he is LAG, there isnt much he can continue with OOP and being 150BB deep. not to mention you can barrel him off another good chunk of his range on a lot of turns.

3 betting this preflop is overrepping our hand. just because we are ahead of his range doesnt mean we have to 3 bet it. if we are ahead, which we are the vast majority of the time, we are going to make money postflop using position.

i like how you played it. and villian never ever has a set given turn action. i guess if you put him on an overpair this line 'might' fold him off an overpair. but thats really villian dependent and frankly pretty optimistic. i think he had some marginal one pair hand on the turn that is calling to see what you do on the river. or something like AK/AQ/KQ that is too stubborn to fold.
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