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Old 08-27-2010, 10:23 PM
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Default Turn line- maximizing value

Villain is unknown 7 hands looks like a nit 14/0.
On the turn I feel like I have to maximize the value and keep his bluffs alive, imo no hands worse than two pair are raising(should raise) so he never has a draw here, also pure bluffs might raise, the question is "how will he continue with them?" will he stack off on any river or only on flushes or 3rd to a straight(J,8,T,6,5) or will he shut down on any river; another question is:" can he check fold 2 pair+ on the scare cards?" from my experience the answer is no.
So my plan is call turn, call any river and shove any river when he checks, do you like this line? And if not why?

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BB: $100
UTG: $100
MP: $137.75
CO: $138.75
Hero (BTN): $100
SB: $102

Pre-Flop: K K dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, SB folds, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($5.50) K 7 9 (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB calls $4

Turn: ($13.50) 3 (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $10, BB raises to $28, Hero calls $18

River: ($69.50) 6 (2 Players)
BB bets $65.50 and is All-In, Hero calls $65.50 and is All-In
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Old 08-28-2010, 02:46 AM
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Default Re: Turn line- maximizing value

yeah its def the best line, anything else would be horrible.
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Old 08-29-2010, 02:00 PM
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Default Re: Turn line- maximizing value

why on earth shipping the turn is horrible?
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Old 08-29-2010, 02:16 PM
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Default Re: Turn line- maximizing value

I think you played it perfectly.

However, I wouldn't shove any river if he checked, I'd probably bet something like $18 to get him to shove over with his bluff that gave up but may now want to try again. Anything he's raising the turn for value with he's shipping the river so when he ends up checking the river, he just has so much air/really weak hands in his range and you will never get called when you shove. Also this could make your hand look like a cheap bluff w a missed draw.
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Old 08-29-2010, 06:02 PM
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Default Re: Turn line- maximizing value

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why on earth shipping the turn is horrible?
anything which calls a jam will jam the river anyway, apart from bluffs of course.
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Old 09-02-2010, 05:29 PM
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Default Re: Turn line- maximizing value

Yeah, I tend to agree. The only time I might jam the turn is if I know the villain is capable of bet calling 8Ts or A3s here but will not jam the river when he misses.
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