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Originally Posted by mootang
Hi mr jones,
3 handed, sizing in this ak hand goes you 3xbb sb, he makes it 10xbb, you make it 26xbb with 370bb effective behind playing AK. I def. agree its close, between protecting our calling range (wont put us on such a strong ace) and 4betting (we have best hand a lot, lets build pot) and both plays should be in your arsenal. Nevertheless its 3 handed we have AK super deep, but I still dont think this spot in general is that big of a money maker but I could be wrong.
But since we are so deep, how much are you really 4betting here as a bluff? I think our opponent should be calling his whole range (or at least 90%+ that plays well) to that 4bet in position this deep (or occasionally 5betting). Basically he should rarely be ever folding. Would you disagree?
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although im not 4betting too much as a bluff, i want to be really wide for value. how can i not 4b if i think he's calling with AT? what if he's 3-betting like 15 or 20% or something?
him calling is fine, but there's a pretty reasonable chance that if he 3-bets to call a 4-bet with QJo he's losing money doing it.
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Thoughts on making our 4bet bigger here and balancing that in position, I don’t think this is a good spot for you to have that wide of a 4bet bluffing range with position and stack. So when you do 4bet, I’d wanna go large like $180+, even like $200.
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that is pretty reasonable and maybe even the best sizing, i prefer to give someone as much room as possible to 5-bet bluff though, and i think he's more likely to 5-bet vs a smaller 4b. in general i sometimes struggle with making sizing bigger as we get deeper. i'm working on it.
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Can you give me an example of sizing where you 6bet and fold AK here? 3x-10xbb-26xbb-he makes it ?, you make it ?, and fold for how much more? LOL, this hand is crazy. I’ve been messing around a lot in live arena when deep with blockers and like 4betting/5betting this hand and always feels dirty to put so much in pot and fold but usually you can rest assured they have it when this deep, plus its good for image lol.
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