d2themfi - $25 NL

[d2themfi]

Video Description: In this video Danny plays 4 tables of $25 NL 6-max. He plays 2 deep tables of $25 NL on Full Tilt and 2 tables of $25 NL on PokerStars. Danny introduces his 6- Max no limit game and discusses proper strategy for beating the micro stakes games.

Video Link: http://www.leggopoker.com/videos/training/512/

Discuss here!

[Maximus13]

Thanks for taking the time out of your busy schedule, to drop down a few or alot of levels and play some 25nl.
I really enjoyed your preflop disscussion, on three betting as well as how to play the button verse differenty player types.
I wonder how you adjust your cbetting range. I find I am often getting in multiway pots and am losing alot of money when I have a two fish at the table. One in the big blind and a limper. I often find myself isolating with standard button hands, but then have a loose big blind come along and end up in a multi way pot where it is checked to me and Im not sure if I should c bet knowing most likely one of the freaking donks will peel at least one. Also generally never c/r the hands that they should be.
What do you think the best way to combat this is type of table dynamic. I also see alot of tags flatting from the blinds, when I isolate a fish, when really they should be three betting the hands they flat. But because there poor tags they just check call, hoping your bet off you stack.
Any suggestion would be extremly helpful or if you feel generous enough, a video on how you adjust your post flop play to player types.
I find the variety of players and table dynamics is the most challenging aspect of micros.

[d2themfi]

Originally Posted by Maximus13

Thanks for taking the time out of your busy schedule, to drop down a few or alot of levels and play some 25nl.
I really enjoyed your preflop disscussion, on three betting as well as how to play the button verse differenty player types.
I wonder how you adjust your cbetting range. I find I am often getting in multiway pots and am losing alot of money when I have a two fish at the table. One in the big blind and a limper. I often find myself isolating with standard button hands, but then have a loose big blind come along and end up in a multi way pot where it is checked to me and Im not sure if I should c bet knowing most likely one of the freaking donks will peel at least one. Also generally never c/r the hands that they should be.
What do you think the best way to combat this is type of table dynamic. I also see alot of tags flatting from the blinds, when I isolate a fish, when really they should be three betting the hands they flat. But because there poor tags they just check call, hoping your bet off you stack.
Any suggestion would be extremly helpful or if you feel generous enough, a video on how you adjust your post flop play to player types.
I find the variety of players and table dynamics is the most challenging aspect of micros.

I guess theres a couple main things I think about when Im choosing to cbet or check, and they are all kind of inter related but also somewhat independent. Mostly I am considering the the board texture, and the hand ranges of my opponents. That kind of goes without saying, but its important to always remember that the board texture is going to dictate a lot of what you do.

Another thing I think about when its a close decision whether to cbet or check behind is later streets. For example, if its 3 way and the flop is KdJd7x and I have Ad8x, then Im more likely to fire the flop with that than with 66 because of my back door equity. I am also concerned with whether my back door equity plays better as a 2 barrel, or a check behind flop and then call turn when I hit. Id rather check behind and call turn bets(when by backdoor draw hits) when my hand has some decent shodwon value(I dont think A8 on KJ7 does tho), and when the draw that it can make is a bit more hidden than the back door nut flush draw, and when I can represent some hands that could check back flop, call turn, and value bet river.

As far as the tags who flat hands they should 3bet, I am not sure exactly what hands you are talking about. But as long as you are aware that they are doing that, it is probably a good thing for you, since you feel that they are making a mistake by not 3betting. In other words they are allowing you to claim equity postflop with hands you would have folded to a 3bet.

[PutMyRobeOnRITE]

Great Video D2THEMFI, I haven't watched your vids because they are heads up and I don't play HU, but this one was a treat because I'm currently playing 25nl

Could you guide me through a few bet or check decisions on the flop and their impact on the turn or river.

1. You had KK on an A high board oop and c-bet it for value. You don't like to check call there? I've seen coaches on other sites check that a majority of the time, and I've also seen others advocate c-betting. If you c-bet how far are you doing with your hand if you get called? If you take a c/c line how far are you going if the villain starts barrelling.

2. You had a J8 or something close and the flop was AJx and you took a flop heads up in position. You checked back the flop saying that too many free cards wouldn't hurt you and I agree. Do you generally check back showdownable hands in position on the flop. Hands like QQ on a K high board, or KK on A high, or AJ on a Q high board? I like taking that line. The trouble I have is if the villain starts barelling the turn, do you generally plan on calling 2 streets down with those hands if you check them back on the flop. I'd imagine a dry board might sway your decision as less draws are in play. Sometimes if I check back in that spot and the villain leads the turn, I min raise the turn for a free showdown....what do you think about that?

-Thanks, Sal.

[d2themfi]

Originally Posted by PutMyRobeOnRITE

Great Video D2THEMFI, I haven't watched your vids because they are heads up and I don't play HU, but this one was a treat because I'm currently playing 25nl

Could you guide me through a few bet or check decisions on the flop and their impact on the turn or river.

1. You had KK on an A high board oop and c-bet it for value. You don't like to check call there? I've seen coaches on other sites check that a majority of the time, and I've also seen others advocate c-betting. If you c-bet how far are you doing with your hand if you get called? If you take a c/c line how far are you going if the villain starts barrelling.

2. You had a J8 or something close and the flop was AJx and you took a flop heads up in position. You checked back the flop saying that too many free cards wouldn't hurt you and I agree. Do you generally check back showdownable hands in position on the flop. Hands like QQ on a K high board, or KK on A high, or AJ on a Q high board? I like taking that line. The trouble I have is if the villain starts barelling the turn, do you generally plan on calling 2 streets down with those hands if you check them back on the flop. I'd imagine a dry board might sway your decision as less draws are in play. Sometimes if I check back in that spot and the villain leads the turn, I min raise the turn for a free showdown....what do you think about that?

-Thanks, Sal.

1. When we are oop we should be more likely to just bet out with the initiative than if we are IP. Check call makes some sense vs an aggressive player who is somewhat unaware that when we check an ace high board after raising pre we prob arent folding. But vs the player I was in the hand against, I think its a clear bet. He was like 85/0 through 30 hands or thereabouts

2. Believe the board was KJxr. I mention that vs that specific player I should probably go 3 streets for value, but in general on dry boards its ok to check back middle pair type hands when they are not very vulnerable to overs. Raising the turn to get a free shodwon makes basically no sense unless ur raising for value vs draws. But even then you might just call down on blanks and induce a bluff on the river. Plus you never are blown off ur hand on the turn

[Nute]

plz get someone qualified to make these vids; the video producer should not be shot taking in the video he is making.

[Kesky]

Originally Posted by Nute

plz get someone qualified to make these vids; the video producer should not be shot taking in the video he is making.

I'm 80% sure you're being sarcastic.


Really good video, Danny. Now that you've mastered 25NL, I'm sure you could do a 50NL video in the near future.

[d2themfi]

Originally Posted by Nute

plz get someone qualified to make these vids; the video producer should not be shot taking in the video he is making.

<3.

edit: make me some money in the ME!

[d2themfi]

Originally Posted by Kesky

I'm 80% sure you're being sarcastic.


Really good video, Danny. Now that you've mastered 25NL, I'm sure you could do a 50NL video in the near future.

he was, he is a good friend, even tho hes a huge nit

re 50nl vid; sure why not

[PutMyRobeOnRITE]

This was in regards to KK on the A high flop oop.

1. When we are oop we should be more likely to just bet out with the initiative than if we are IP. Check call makes some sense vs an aggressive player who is somewhat unaware that when we check an ace high board after raising pre we prob arent folding. But vs the player I was in the hand against, I think its a clear bet. He was like 85/0 through 30 hands or thereabouts

I see the value in the c-bet against a calling station, but if we are called on the flop, do you just keep on betting with the A out there, or c/c turn and fold river? That is generally where I get lost. In my mind we can't get 3 streets of value, especially against a better player.

sorry to be so nitpicky...

-Thanks, Sal.