d2themfi - Heads Up Strategy Part 2

[d2themfi]

Danny reviews some heads up hands he played this year at mid-stakes vs. a couple of regs and spends 10 min on a math analysis.

[Kesky]

Hey Danny, loving the series as expected.

Could you please post the pt4 HUD you have for 6max? I promise to sign up for wtflop if you do.

[d2themfi]

heh . Will send u what you wanted on skype

[baba]

Im curious whether for a lot of these hands you would play them the same if it were in a 6max game. For example At 17mins you 3bet QJ and c/c on the 98d4d flop. Would you play this the same in a 6max game i.e blind v button. Like you mentioned in the video these flop textures get raised alot and I'm never sure how to continue with a hand like jq.

[baba]

You mention always bluffing when your at the very bottom of your range. Against decent players would you always bluff the very bottom of your range even if you expect villian is virtually always calling you on a particular board texture/runout and very rarely folding? I.e you think its more important to be somewhat balanced rather than making a -ev bluff.

[d2themfi]

Originally Posted by baba

Im curious whether for a lot of these hands you would play them the same if it were in a 6max game. For example At 17mins you 3bet QJ and c/c on the 98d4d flop. Would you play this the same in a 6max game i.e blind v button. Like you mentioned in the video these flop textures get raised alot and I'm never sure how to continue with a hand like jq.

Blind vs button is probably similar. It's really going to come down to whose range is stronger relatively. Like on average in HU you might expect to have a 55% or so equity when you 3bet and get called range vs range. On a flop where you have 60% equity you probably wouldn't have a checking range. On a flop where you only have 50% equity you likely would need to check a substantial portion of your range.

Originally Posted by baba

You mention always bluffing when your at the very bottom of your range. Against decent players would you always bluff the very bottom of your range even if you expect villian is virtually always calling you on a particular board texture/runout and very rarely folding? I.e you think its more important to be somewhat balanced rather than making a -ev bluff.

Well no if you know someone is calling you dont bluff. The idea was more to not play a really extreme strategy with a less than absolutely 100% read, which people do really really often. If your read is marginal which it almost always will be it makes more sense to hedge the other way somewhat and use a strategy that exploits while protecting against your read being wrong. This will also have the benefit of not alerting your opponent that you are so blatantly exploiting what he is doing (or what he now knows you perceive him to be doing)

[hredunos]

Good video, much better than part 1.

[tinygoldfish]

you say 96o should be a flat preflop, can you elaborate on what tipe of hands you would put in your 3bet range?

would you use the strongest hands you can't flat or a mixed strategy with some of your stronger semibluffing hands like T8s,Q6s,etc?

[tomjetland]

I like the content, nice video! Would love to see you playing live for some vids though.

On the hand where you overbet 200 in 100 on A77ssc xc Q with T7.. you said you would move Ax hands into your overbetting range, but what do when he shoves for 150 more? it's a mandatory call right?

Thanks

[d2themfi]

Originally Posted by tinygoldfish

you say 96o should be a flat preflop, can you elaborate on what tipe of hands you would put in your 3bet range?

would you use the strongest hands you can't flat or a mixed strategy with some of your stronger semibluffing hands like T8s,Q6s,etc?

Generally not going to used a mixed strategy for any hands preflop, except if I am experimenting with something. If I did, it generally wouldnt be a hand like Q6s, but might be something like 98s. Im very confident I can profitably flat 96o. That hand was vs cubkille right? If so, he was folding enough to 3bets for me to 3bet it, but he was also doing something in SRP's that made me not want to 3bet very much vs him. At the time I felt like it was sort of a wash where what he was doing in SRP negated the advantage of 3betting bluffs.

Originally Posted by tomjetland

I like the content, nice video! Would love to see you playing live for some vids though.

On the hand where you overbet 200 in 100 on A77ssc xc Q with T7.. you said you would move Ax hands into your overbetting range, but what do when he shoves for 150 more? it's a mandatory call right?

Thanks

I think realistically you are better off just calling 7x. To bluff, he has to basically turn Ax into a bluff there, which means our bluff catchers are calling to chop, which means we can optimally fold a lot. Plus if you hold an Ace it makes 7x more likely for him relative to bluffs, and vice versa if you hold 7x. I think overbetting Ax is probably not good actually though now that I think about it- except AK/AQ. Probably best to check back Ax. Ofcourse if you know he checkraises all 7x on flop then overbetting is fine.