grogheadflow - $100 NL (Part 1/3)

[grogheadflow]

Video Description: In this part 1 of 3 video series Dan plays 4 tables of $100 NL 6-Max on PokerStars vs. several Leggo members. Dan discusses multi street bluffs, tailoring 3bet/4bet ranges to suit opponents and seizing the initiative whenever possible.

Video Link: http://www.leggopoker.com/videos/training/719/

Discuss here!

[bromancing]

That little rant in the middle about bluffing.. it's like you know me personally.

[MrNutflush]

Around min 17:00 on table 2 you talk about a hand and the history with the player to your left. The player you talk about actually left a few hands ago and Donkadocus sat down. I wonder if you noticed that during your play and only butchered the audio later or if you really thought you'd be playing the other guy and based your decisions on that.

With donkadocus playing a few more hands with you on 2 tables and watching your superaggressive style I think he just got extremly unlucky. You're all over the place with reraises, multiple street barrels and floats, but both times he got involved with you you had the absolute top of your range. Getting AQ in pf against you defending your button doesn't seem like incredibly bad when people are not too aware of the fact that you see them as nits. Doncadocus has like 19/16 stats, that means he could very well be opening >20% of hands in the CO.

Around min 33 table 1 you elaborate your thought process about the math when you 3bet the CO OTB with the intention of 5bet bluff-shoving and said he can only 4bet 1 out of 8 times for value, as a 3betting valuerange is 2,6% or whatever.
I don't see how your value3betting range is anywhere near 2,6% with your history and your playing style. I'd expect you to fistpump shove AQo for value there because you should have a ton of bluffs in your range when you shove over his 2nd 4bet.

Overall a very interesting playing style, that's way more action than you see in most other videos here imo. I'm looking foreward to parts 2 and 3.

But plz, plz stop the coughing directly into the microphone, it was like my speakers where exploding.

[grogheadflow]

MrNut, no I didn't notice that the player had left actually, and I didn't know at the time it was Donkadocus either. My bad I guess.

Oh he definitely ran bad for sure, running into AA and then quads. Maybe the lesson there is that I perhaps wouldn't get paid if I wasn't all over the place in other spots? In fact, that definitely is the lesson.

As for getting AQ in CO vs BTN. Very important point this....

Question: Is AQ ahead of my entire BTN 3betting range?
Answer: Of course, easily.

Question: Is AQ ahead, or even close, to my BTN 3bet/5bet range with no history?
Answer: Well the answer would apply equally to virtually all villains, and it is certainly not.

So just to summarise, my initial 3betting range from Donkadocus's POV just doesn't matter, all that matters is my playback-at range to a 4bet, which has AQ crushed even if I am 3bet/5betting TT with no history.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 30.635% 29.66% 00.98% 219373536 7235166.00 { AQo }
Hand 1: 69.365% 68.39% 00.98% 505871460 7235166.00 { TT+, AKs, AKo }

For the next hand, when I mentioned the 2.6%, I'm talking about his own legitimate 4bet value range. For arguments sake, say he raises a 20.8% range in the CO, meaning that when 3bet he'll have 2.6% of hands (QQ+, AK) 12.5% of the time. Of course, this is higher if he's 4bet calling JJ, TT, but in general you can see my point that, over a small but significant sample size, when he 4bets 2 times out of 3 when it should be closer to 1 in 8 gives me enough to believe he's out of line.

My coughs cleared up today, so I'll do the sound for the next part sickness-free, apologies.

[bromancing]

Enjoyed the video for sure and I liked the reasoning behind 3bet/5betting AQo as better than 4bet/calling. But I noticed you 4bet 99 co vs btn about 4:50 in on table 2. You didn't really comment on it but I don't think you had crazy history at the table yet. 99 does about the same against a standard 3bet/5bet range as AQo. Can you explain please?

[Donkadocus]

16:32 Table 2 (top right)

643TQ with 32

You bet river and I raised. You say

"I have absolutely no idea what he can have, I actually thought about making a hero call"

I was so sure you had nothing here and wanted to call with K high. However I was a little concerned that you were bluffing with the best hand. So I raised - basically repping nothing but hoping to fold out A7, A2. I'm not certain it was +EV because I thought you may call with any pair.

The video would have been a lot better if you'd called

[Sattva]

01:55 4th table
you've said that it was a good spot to 3barrel from the opponent's point of view cause your range are weak aces after check/call flop. how would you play with KQ that is non top doper?

08:05 2nd table
so you bet the turn with the intention to bet the river? what rivers would you bet bluff if you do and what betsizing of it's bet? don't you think that your opponent won't give you so much credit after you have just won without showdown against him in previous hand?

22:43 3rd table
when you bet the turn with 33 what was your plan on the river if the fish or reg call you? would you bluff non heart river?

thank you for this video, it's great, waiting for the next one)

[Donkadocus]

@ 22:08 you mention 'The guys who will 4bet 9s OOP and call it off'

I planned to 3 and 4 bet a pure value (non-polarised) range vs. you.

I thought it was a good plan but obviously I ran the absolute bottom of my range into the top of yours and ended up looking silly.

(I didn't know you'd think I am a nit after 45 hands)

[Kesky]

Really enjoyed this video.

[flaviusO]

Great video as usual Grog! Near the end you iso a weak player 6x with QQ. Is this your standard iso size vs fish, would you make it the same with J9o let's say?