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Old 02-04-2012, 12:29 PM
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Hello, had a bit of a hiatus from poker, I'm back to answer all my threads now!

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This is definitely interesting. There are so many things floating around in my head that I barely know where to start. I'll try and sum it up shortly.

First, I have heard so much about about that balancing shouldn't even be in my vocabulary at 50nl. Cuz nobody is really gonna do much about it that I'm unbalanced in certain spots. And its probably true a fair bit at 100nl aswell? So how much weight should I really put into having balanced freq at these limits? I think that if nobody is exploiting me for being unbalanced, then I can just continue that way untill I see that they adjust?
Well, the way to think about is not 'I need to be balanced so that people don't notice I'm unbalanced and thus use their sick skills to exploit me'. The point is that most spots are shades of grey as to how often a player will fold x, call y, and so given we don't have definitive answers we know that by balancing our play based upon our holdings means we are not getting outplayed or exploited ourselves. Our opponent is simultaneously trying to exploit us, along the lines of 'he's a monkey, call 3 streets with TT on Qxx', or 'he's a nit who never bluff raises, bet fold TPTK on the flop EZ game'. By ensuring we are balanced with our frequencies to the point where none of these assumptions holds true, the collective exploiting efforts of our opponents are doomed to fail.

I'm finding it hard to explain what I mean, it makes perfect sense in my own head but without the words to describe it. Any leggo coach with a better way to explain this please feel free to chip in.

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For example in this hand when u donk. Lets say that the donk itself is +ev because he is just gonna have so much garbage in his range. The problem I have is that even though we don't pick up EQ on the turn often, he is just gonna have so many hands that just ain't gonna call down. Being 1 and done alot on 864ss just don't seem like a good idea even if the flopdonk is profitable. But ye I understand that we might be unbalanced. Its just weird I don't really get it It just seems like overall, we are gonna be 1 and done alot. If we donk gutshot+bdfd, the vast majority of the time we are just gonna bet flop and c/f turn if we are only barreling on cards that improve our EQ, even though the range of hands villain is calling with is weak.

Dunno if this makes any sence. But being 1 and done is the biggest issue I have with this. Appreciate the discussion.
Yeah, so if we think he isn't calling 2 streets or 3 with many holdings, then we can increase our donk 3 streets range. The point is, don't do it with like 100% of your bluff range, choose the top 50% of hands that are behind that have equity for example. The truth is we just don't know if he's a calling station (decrease bluffing range, increase value range), or a huge nit (visa versa) so by being somewhat balanced with our frequencies we know we're doing ok whatever the weather.

So as for not donking just one n done on this board, we can elect to donk 0,1,2 or 3 streets as bluffs based on our holdings. If donking 1 street in a vacuum is profitable, let's do it with a hand with very little equity and then give up. Let's donk 2 streets with at least a turned GS, and 3 streets with a turned OESD for example. Balancing our frequencies in this way isn't about doing it for the sake of doing it, it's about ensuring that in those grey area spots we are not making wild mistakes while our opponent probably still is.
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Old 02-04-2012, 12:31 PM
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lol i didn't think anyone took any notice of my comments.

i'm not hard to please, just make an informative video and i'm happy. btw, are you playing from the uk on this stars fr site?
Your comments usually stand out like a sore thumb haha. Yes I'm playing from the UK. Softer players, higher rake, less VIP benefits, it all kinda equals out and I'm playing across both sites atm.
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Old 02-04-2012, 02:53 PM
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Thanks! U explained it good so I do understand it better now.
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Old 02-04-2012, 07:38 PM
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Helpful stuff Grog. Thanks for the effort.
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Old 03-08-2012, 08:51 AM
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Definitely like the format, i hope for more in future.
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Old 03-11-2012, 09:31 AM
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I'm gonna go ahead and say 55 is a pretty easy bet/fold here vs. a 19vpip. I doubt he's ever x/r'ing anything as a bluff here unless he's a sicko thinks you can fold Kx here (which I don't think many players are bold enough to try and push you off trips at these stakes without some insane read on your).
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Old 03-11-2012, 09:34 AM
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Also, you're flop calling range on that board (multiway) is almost always Kx or better after you call flop and bet turn. I doubt he perceives you having anything that floated in this situation that is now trying to barrel him off some random 2nd pair hand.
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Old 03-11-2012, 09:39 AM
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PS. Excellent vid!
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