grogheadflow - Hand History Blitz Part 2

[grogheadflow]

Dan continues to goes over every hand where he won or lost at least 10bbs in a single session, taking under two minutes to describe each hand. Dan talks about exploiting imbalances in our opponents, being aware of our own range, and bet calling flops OOP on wet boards.

[piguanitore]

Nice video, liked this format.
Do you table select a lot usually ? Do you use any software maybe ?

[grogheadflow]

Hey, I don't really table select. You don't need to on .fr to be honest! No software, I scan lobbys every 15 minutes or so like most people.

[jjooeeyy]

26 min ~ You 3bet AQo BTn vs MP. Villain was a fisher guy. Flop comes 255r and you checked back. You said that there wasn't reall any merits in betting, cuz nothing worse call or better folds. I think that a guy like this is gonna call this flop fairly wide. Any Ax, and probably stuff like KQ,KJ also, just because the board is so extremely dry. Since he was a bit fishy. So imo there is some value in betting flop, and we also protect our hand a bit. I do think checking is def okay as well, just had some thoughts regarding to cbeting. What do u think? Also what is the weakest hand u feel comfortable checking back and bluffcatching?

44,30 ~ You open QT otb, BB calls. Flop comes KKJr, you cbet, villain c/r. Turn is a 5, and villain checks. What do u think about checking back and betting river compared to just bet turn? Cuz this is a scenario that often happends to me, if I should just bet, or check back and bet river. When we check back, we cap our range, but we do define villains range since I don't think most people will lead the river with air. So when he does lead, he was probably going for a c/r on the turn. How are u thinking in spots like this?

Good content.

[Prologion]

Min. 11 – AQo:
Usually I have almost no X/Raises (when I missed my 2ndbarell OTT) in my gameplan b/c it kinda feels in many spots dirty cause betting-strats are in most spots easier to balance…
(should include it as an exploit vs. some floaty REGs anyways more often in my arsenal, I guess).
Nut in this spot, it feels like we would not bluffbarell in a high freq. on this turncard b/c even though it removes Kx-combos from his range, it dies the same for our perceived valuerange and now no Kx-combos will ever fold anywhere and also Tx-combos will call down more often 3 streets (depending on the rivercard).

When I am not off here and it is good to decrease our bluffingfreq. on this turncard, then imo we can check the majority of our range, namely draws, but also Kx-hands in order to X/R.
Here you also said that you might check there a hand like AA on the turn (agree obv. with this).
Would it be to X/Jam b/c we are OOP ad the board is so drawheavy and mb we do not know 100% his bluffingfreq. on different rivercards?
What about Tx?

great vid btw

[grogheadflow]

Originally Posted by jjooeeyy

26 min ~ You 3bet AQo BTn vs MP. Villain was a fisher guy. Flop comes 255r and you checked back. You said that there wasn't reall any merits in betting, cuz nothing worse call or better folds. I think that a guy like this is gonna call this flop fairly wide. Any Ax, and probably stuff like KQ,KJ also, just because the board is so extremely dry. Since he was a bit fishy. So imo there is some value in betting flop, and we also protect our hand a bit. I do think checking is def okay as well, just had some thoughts regarding to cbeting. What do u think? Also what is the weakest hand u feel comfortable checking back and bluffcatching?

Yeah betting is fine without reads that make it a check or a bet one way or another. AQ would be the weakest hand I'd bluffcatch probably. Anything weaker I just want to uncap my range and keep firing on broadways etc. I do think in general, betting the flop is best as a default (protection, less thought required, keeps ur range wide, avoids guessing games)

Originally Posted by jjooeeyy

44,30 ~ You open QT otb, BB calls. Flop comes KKJr, you cbet, villain c/r. Turn is a 5, and villain checks. What do u think about checking back and betting river compared to just bet turn? Cuz this is a scenario that often happends to me, if I should just bet, or check back and bet river. When we check back, we cap our range, but we do define villains range since I don't think most people will lead the river with air. So when he does lead, he was probably going for a c/r on the turn. How are u thinking in spots like this?

Good content.

Yeah the turn check capping our range is the major consideration here. In addition, we have more fold leverage VS random depolarised hands that might be able to bluffcatch the river (AQ for example) but will fold the turn with the implied threat of a river bet from us as well. So just more fold equity on turn than river overall.

I do think on the whole that when a guy CRs and then checks turn they're unbalanced for the most part in check folding a huge % of the time. When this doesn't happen I'm confused but villain is usually bad so I'm happy too.

Originally Posted by Prologion

Min. 11 – AQo:
Usually I have almost no X/Raises (when I missed my 2ndbarell OTT) in my gameplan b/c it kinda feels in many spots dirty cause betting-strats are in most spots easier to balance…
(should include it as an exploit vs. some floaty REGs anyways more often in my arsenal, I guess).
Nut in this spot, it feels like we would not bluffbarell in a high freq. on this turncard b/c even though it removes Kx-combos from his range, it dies the same for our perceived valuerange and now no Kx-combos will ever fold anywhere and also Tx-combos will call down more often 3 streets (depending on the rivercard).

When I am not off here and it is good to decrease our bluffingfreq. on this turncard, then imo we can check the majority of our range, namely draws, but also Kx-hands in order to X/R.
Here you also said that you might check there a hand like AA on the turn (agree obv. with this).
Would it be to X/Jam b/c we are OOP ad the board is so drawheavy and mb we do not know 100% his bluffingfreq. on different rivercards?
What about Tx?

Yeah I've just spent 15 minutes more staring at this hand and trying to work out a good balanced plan (but VS this guy, so also sort of exploity). Looking at the hand again, I actually think I just like barreling off anyway on this K turn. His PF range is just too weak and his flop call to my small bet on this wet of a board weakens his range still further. If we're 3 barreling AQ then along with all the other potential bluffs (flushdraws etc) we're going to have a lot of bluffs, but VS this weak a range I think 3 barreling as weak as JJ for value would be fine, or maybe 2 barreling and CC board pairing blanks or whatever to balance our numerous giveups. So I don't like the CR plan that I mentioned in the vid. Weak range= attack it!

I think my river fold is really bad in the actual hand. Weak range, checks turn, probably can't value bet, tons of draws. What was I thinking!

As for Tx, bet flop, CC this turn, decide river. We're going to be perceived to have stronger than Tx that's not folding so I think we can play the river pretty well.

[Prologion]

hey, thanks for answering^^

and yeah, I myself have to put to myself often the question "what the hell you was thinking there, in hindsight" -> so you are not alone

[mootang]

48:30

this spot looks familiar, =)

http://www.leggopoker.com/forums/med...pot-18437.html

Board is is K9xr, btn vs sb in 3b pot and we raise a flop cbet to get it in vs jj.

what kind of raising range do you have on this board? and how often (%) would you say you would raise this flop in a 400nl 6max game? I would honestly say you probably are never raise/folding given dynamic but you are exploiting the fact he is tilting so balance is thrown out window. I agree its a good board to do with gutshots occasionally because usually JJ/QQ (from our opponents perspective) will not consider this a raise/fold spot and we can try to bink our gutshot. In my hand I raised this flop with no history and still don't think its that bad, my bluffing portion of my range is always gonna include some random equity like <gutshots or Ax> but without a spewy/loose image that either I have or my opponents have then I should just be calling.

also not sure why you snarl'd that he had JJ. If we dont think he is messing up with this portion of his range then there is no reason to raise flop. You shouldn't be surprised at all when he flips up this hand.

I guess mostly calling and betting turns is something you can be able to do with more of your range since it strengthens your range in a spot you will normally be to wide in to continue. But a lot of people and regs in general look at this spot and immediately think call, I immediately think I want to raise but part of my thinking has always been flawed as I got to improve my overall balance when i am in tougher games.

[Koerperkarle]

Do you feel that doing a review in such a "blitz" style has been helping you more than doing a regular review or do you do this only "for the camera" ?