MYNAMEIZGREG - $1,000 NL (Part 1)

[MYNAMEIZGREG]

Video Description: In this year's Valentines Day video Greg kicks off his series by playing 4 tables of $1,000 NL 6-Max on Full Tilt.

Video Link: http://www.leggopoker.com/videos/training/677/

Link To Part 2: http://www.leggopoker.com/videos/training/685/

Discuss here!

[lancelott_]

wow, thx for vid greg!

[steel108]

With the KQ hand, I don't really get what villan is repping by re-raising you... 95% of regs won't raise a Q in this spot since the board is about as dry as possible. His hand looks like pure air with some equity. Maybe an Ax hand? My standard line is to just call here in your spot, but if I raised I would just shove since he really isn't repping much and I doubt he will continue bluffing if he doesn't improve.

[bariban]

Why would you ever lead the river with the A9s in the beginning of the video?
Your hand is just extemely face up against a good player: by checking flop, betting turn and leading river you rep exactly what you have: a good 9.
Also, this just can't ever be a bluf, there aren't any 2 cards you would take this line with that is air on the river, I can't think of any thinking player taking this line with just the Ad.
Why not check/call and let him valuetown himself with worse 9s?
Imo a very good player will fold a hand like T9 or turn it into a bluf on the river, he wont call because you just revealed your hand strength.

[Googolplex]

Originally Posted by holdemmanager

With the KQ hand, I don't really get what villan is repping by re-raising you... 95% of regs won't raise a Q in this spot since the board is about as dry as possible. His hand looks like pure air with some equity. Maybe an Ax hand? My standard line is to just call here in your spot, but if I raised I would just shove since he really isn't repping much and I doubt he will continue bluffing if he doesn't improve.

yeah, this is pretty much exactly what i would think - i.e. villain is repping nothing and that this is just some kind of level one, bad aggression thing. obv if we think that the majority of his range is air, we still shouldn't jam over his 3 bet (unless we think he'll hero call w/ worse or something), but just call with the intention of letting him barrel off his stack. but greg isn't calling w/ the intention of calling more barrels/letting villain bluff, he said he is shutting down/re-evaluating and this is the part i don't really understand. hopefully greg can elaborate a bit more on this hand.

[arnz18]

atleast its a great video on what not to do

[Nicolak]

just paid for a 1month subscription just to see what are being taught in videos nowadays. Saw this video after watching Boywonder's. U guys give a refund? lol.. actually Boywonder's was fine, although a couple technical pts he made could be argued (Kman actually did a good job on that), but this video was exactly what last poster said...what not to do while playing. I'm not claiming to be the best player or anything, but 2 hands were butchered, KQ and A9, that were already mentioned, not to mention a couple of fundamental mistakes, albeit on a lesser scale. Hope the next vids in this series are worth my time!

[MYNAMEIZGREG]

Originally Posted by holdemmanager

With the KQ hand, I don't really get what villan is repping by re-raising you... 95% of regs won't raise a Q in this spot since the board is about as dry as possible. His hand looks like pure air with some equity. Maybe an Ax hand? My standard line is to just call here in your spot, but if I raised I would just shove since he really isn't repping much and I doubt he will continue bluffing if he doesn't improve.

Originally Posted by Googolplex

yeah, this is pretty much exactly what i would think - i.e. villain is repping nothing and that this is just some kind of level one, bad aggression thing. obv if we think that the majority of his range is air, we still shouldn't jam over his 3 bet (unless we think he'll hero call w/ worse or something), but just call with the intention of letting him barrel off his stack. but greg isn't calling w/ the intention of calling more barrels/letting villain bluff, he said he is shutting down/re-evaluating and this is the part i don't really understand. hopefully greg can elaborate a bit more on this hand.

If we suspect that villain won't continue bluffing then what is the point of jamming? Under that assumption, we allow him to display that he has a better hand by betting the turn or river, allowing us to fold a hand where we otherwise would have just shoved the flop.

Googol -- the difference here is basically if we think villain will be bluffing more. In your first example, we call down because we think he's bluffing a lot. In the hand, I don't call down because I don't think he's bluffing the turn + river, but I think he can be bluffing the flop.

[MYNAMEIZGREG]

Originally Posted by bariban

Why would you ever lead the river with the A9s in the beginning of the video?
Your hand is just extemely face up against a good player: by checking flop, betting turn and leading river you rep exactly what you have: a good 9.
Also, this just can't ever be a bluf, there aren't any 2 cards you would take this line with that is air on the river, I can't think of any thinking player taking this line with just the Ad.
Why not check/call and let him valuetown himself with worse 9s?
Imo a very good player will fold a hand like T9 or turn it into a bluf on the river, he wont call because you just revealed your hand strength.

My read isn't that he's a great player. Henceforth, I can play my hand in the manner that I did, get him to call with worse, and never worry about him turning his hand into a bluff. I would advise you to listen to my reasoning in the video re: timing, the amount of tables he's on, etc., for more reference.

Using your logic regardless, "Also, this just can't ever be a bluf, there aren't any 2 cards you would take this line with that is air on the river" means that we will never be bluffed since no one would ever think we were bluffing! (and hence folding after we bet would be correct).

Again, the part where you talk about "a very good player" is irrelevant because I'm not pegging him as a very good player. Against a very good player we are largely restricted into b/c turn c/c river. Against players who play exploitably, we can take other lines and have them be more +EV.

[MYNAMEIZGREG]

Originally Posted by Nicolak

just paid for a 1month subscription just to see what are being taught in videos nowadays. Saw this video after watching Boywonder's. U guys give a refund? lol.. actually Boywonder's was fine, although a couple technical pts he made could be argued (Kman actually did a good job on that), but this video was exactly what last poster said...what not to do while playing. I'm not claiming to be the best player or anything, but 2 hands were butchered, KQ and A9, that were already mentioned, not to mention a couple of fundamental mistakes, albeit on a lesser scale. Hope the next vids in this series are worth my time!

I am open to discussing anything with you that you would like to. If you would like to address specific reasoning I made in the video, and here in this thread, I would be happy to entertain what you are saying.

I would also welcome you to describe in any detail the "couple of fundamental mistakes" I made.