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Old 07-30-2010, 02:30 AM
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Video Description: In this PowerPoint presentation video Philip applies game theory modeling to a common pre flop situation.

Video Link: http://www.leggopoker.com/videos/training/797/

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Old 07-30-2010, 04:04 AM
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I'm excited to check this out, Philip warned me that it's a little advanced, but hopefully not too hard for me to understand .
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Old 07-30-2010, 03:12 PM
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I'm excited too, it's not every day you get to have your video put up on the best poker training site in the world you know.
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Can I put in a request for a PLO version of these videos?
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Old 07-31-2010, 01:58 PM
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Can I put in a request for a PLO version of these videos?
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Old 07-31-2010, 03:09 PM
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The video was pretty good. I'm just curious why you didn't just make it a HU game instead of CO vs BTN. Is there any reason for solving a 3b IP situation to be more interesting than a 3b OOP one? It seems like there would be smaller error in the calculations (cuz of fewer variables), or at least it would be simpler to have the blinds be a part of the players' stacks that we're dealing with. I don't know I'm not too sure about either of my assumptions, just wanted to know if there's a particular reason you chose this situation.

Also, I think you could have briefly mentioned the [0,1] distribution for people who haven't read MoP. It probably wouldn't take too long to explain it, and other than that I don't really think you have to be familiar with any part of the book to understand this video.

BTW, I would be interested in both more GT videos and being in a MoP study group.
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Old 07-31-2010, 03:47 PM
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The video was pretty good. I'm just curious why you didn't just make it a HU game instead of CO vs BTN. Is there any reason for solving a 3b IP situation to be more interesting than a 3b OOP one? It seems like there would be smaller error in the calculations (cuz of fewer variables), or at least it would be simpler to have the blinds be a part of the players' stacks that we're dealing with. I don't know I'm not too sure about either of my assumptions, just wanted to know if there's a particular reason you chose this situation.
Thanks. I can't remember any particular reason for choosing CO vs. BTN, I guess it's a spot where both players ranges should be pretty wide. I was looking at 6max play rather than HU so that's why I didn't do HU.

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Also, I think you could have briefly mentioned the [0,1] distribution for people who haven't read MoP. It probably wouldn't take too long to explain it, and other than that I don't really think you have to be familiar with any part of the book to understand this video
I mentioned it in my last two videos, they were designed as an intro to game theory so I wouldn't need to cover too many basics in future vids. I think it's pretty important to have read MoP, although perhaps there is a subset of people who don't have the book but would still get some use out of this video. It might be a little difficult to understand why I'm doing what I did without seeing the same process in toy games and, if somebody didn't have enough interest in game theory to get the book, I'd be surprised if they weren't put off by the amount of mathematics in the video.

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BTW, I would be interested in both more GT videos and being in a MoP study group.
I wasn't suggesting starting a MoP study group, I was thinking of doing a video series based on the book for people who haven't been able to get through it by themselves. Just a bit of brainstorming and interest gauging, it may not happen. If you were looking to get into a MoP study group anyway, there's one going on here.
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Old 07-31-2010, 04:51 PM
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Red Joker's Game Theory Preflop Spreadsheet
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Old 07-31-2010, 05:19 PM
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Thanks Vitas.

I had a request for an excel spreadsheet where you could change the inputs and it would spit out the new ranges.



Cells that are highlighted in yellow are where you can change the inputs. Blue cells are the new ranges and the chart will automatically update whenever you change something. It's pretty straight forward to use, the formulas for calculating the outputs are a bit long but you don't need to go at them.
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@Vitas

Your link doesn't work. RedJoker's does though so no real harm done.

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Great video - would like to see more GTO videos from you. MoP is a really excellent poker read for the mathmatically inclined. But honestly I am not very interested in a series basicly walking through a book I have studied quite a bit. I think it would be much more interesting with new material and ideas (I know this is really hard work and probably too time consuming to make it worthwhile for you). Anyways, thanks for the video.
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