Zaza - $200 NL Part 3

[Zaza]

Mirza continues his series on Stars, this time on 6 tables of $200 NL 6-Max. Mirza breaks down the spots as they come up and talks about the importance of playing your A-game.

[jjooeeyy]

5,05 ~ Table 2 you open JTs in MP, BB call. You said firs that you would def cbet. But on 98Jss vs a reg, it feels like the times he wants to continue, he is pretty often gonna c/r, witch issn't really great for you? So in my mind since there issn't that much value in betting, checking back would be better since he might just stab with sth random thinking that you are very often just gonna fold on the turn. And it keeps the pot smaller and keeps you away from getting into very sticky spots on later streets. Do you agree with me?

26,30 ~ Table 2 you 3bet 96s from SB vs BU. Flop comes 89Qss and you said you bet for value. In my mind again this feels like a spot were you could get value from some hands (def valuetown urself aswell) but alot of those hands are raising? Like AT,AJ with bdfd that might not be strong enough to call, and flushes and maybe some other hands aswell? And I also think that since this guy seemd to be defending 3bets pretty tight, do we really have 50% EQ vs his callingerange on this flop to justify vbeting? Personally I think I would have c/f this flop, but that might be bad?

Great vid. Alot of interestings spots came up.

[Zaza]

Originally Posted by jjooeeyy

5,05 ~ Table 2 you open JTs in MP, BB call. You said firs that you would def cbet. But on 98Jss vs a reg, it feels like the times he wants to continue, he is pretty often gonna c/r, witch issn't really great for you? So in my mind since there issn't that much value in betting, checking back would be better since he might just stab with sth random thinking that you are very often just gonna fold on the turn. And it keeps the pot smaller and keeps you away from getting into very sticky spots on later streets. Do you agree with me?

26,30 ~ Table 2 you 3bet 96s from SB vs BU. Flop comes 89Qss and you said you bet for value. In my mind again this feels like a spot were you could get value from some hands (def valuetown urself aswell) but alot of those hands are raising? Like AT,AJ with bdfd that might not be strong enough to call, and flushes and maybe some other hands aswell? And I also think that since this guy seemd to be defending 3bets pretty tight, do we really have 50% EQ vs his callingerange on this flop to justify vbeting? Personally I think I would have c/f this flop, but that might be bad?

Great vid. Alot of interestings spots came up.

Hey, spot on I agree with everything u said and checking is definitely gonna be superior to betting, for the overall outcomes of the hand vs this specific opponent.

Hand 2, I do think there is value in betting and he can t have any sets really, since He has a very wide 4bet range IP here otb vs me overall, so it s definitely made of broadways or some suited connectors.that being said i would have prefered betting the turn and ch/f the river, cos theres sth to be said about taking the pot down right there and make his floats fold.
As far as raising goes, we didnt have any dynamics that would make me think he s the type to raise me light.
Good questions, appreciate the feedback as usual!!

[Raikkoboy]

Hey Zaza, hope I appear in one of your vids soon

[Stroggos]

nice vid. Not sure if i like getting in 99 vs you anymore after seeing your 3bet value range in this video.

also, i don't really like your style of making videos. When you put 6 tables into the video it makes it harder for you to explain the thought process for every hand, 4 tables is better imo, because you can explain each hand more indepth.

make some deep 1/2 videos sometimes in the future imo

[Zaza]

oh boy seems like there are more stars members here than I thought there were.
@stroggos: U r the first one to complain about not going enough into depth , but I ll keep that in mind for the next series or what not, if i decide to make more live vids.
GL and see u at the tables

[greigthegriiinder]

Well i like 6 tables,more action more fun imo

[shinigammi]

Hi man great video as always.

I have some questions.

~ 3.40 on table 3 . If you didn't want the fish in the pot you would 3bet the AJ or flat IP ? Same at 5.13 with ATcc on table 1.

~5.42 table 5 with 44. What about 3bet spp vs sb open? It is a spot that he can 4bet you a lot and maybe you don't need to have 44 on your 5bet shove range but you have to had a plan on some flops rather than expecting to hit a set right? I find my self in difficult spot with 22-77 when the sb opens.

~44.15 on table 6 with Q5. I like your 2 barrel for value but why betting small and not a big to get more value? I mean the fish will call any kind of bet with what he wants to call anyway.

~45 table 6 with JT again vs the fish. Would you prefer to 2b this turn given that he will continue with worse hands that got more equity? Although the flush got there, some two pair and of course the Ax that beat us, I think he will call with 9x , Tx , 8x with a club or a gutter.

Thanks and sorry about my English.

[Zaza]

Originally Posted by shinigammi

Hi man great video as always.

I have some questions.

~ 3.40 on table 3 . If you didn't want the fish in the pot you would 3bet the AJ or flat IP ? Same at 5.13 with ATcc on table 1.

I would 3bet Aj alot there cos its gonna get squeezed too often and it doesnt play that great unless the opr is too loose and weak postflop.A10cc is alil bit better since it has more potential to flop something we can semibluff.

~5.42 table 5 with 44. What about 3bet spp vs sb open? It is a spot that he can 4bet you a lot and maybe you don't need to have 44 on your 5bet shove range but you have to had a plan on some flops rather than expecting to hit a set right? I find my self in difficult spot with 22-77 when the sb opens.

I wouldnt 3bet em ever unless I wanted to jam them preflop in with the right dynamic.There s more ways to win the pots besides flopping sets.


~44.15 on table 6 with Q5. I like your 2 barrel for value but why betting small and not a big to get more value? I mean the fish will call any kind of bet with what he wants to call anyway.

I dont think fish always call the same kind of range wether u bet big or small, alot of the times he will get scared away with the weaker part of his range.And my hand isnt that strong in the first place so I like to size it differently depending on my hand strenght also.



~45 table 6 with JT again vs the fish. Would you prefer to 2b this turn given that he will continue with worse hands that got more equity? Although the flush got there, some two pair and of course the Ax that beat us, I think he will call with 9x , Tx , 8x with a club or a gutter.


Some fish always bet the turn there when check to, but betting seems good in order to protect our hand and get value from random clubs he s gonna be peeling with.



Thanks and sorry about my English.

Ur english is good
dont worry about it, thx for the observations.

[TheStudent]

6:30 with set 44

You say raise and get it in, most of the time vs an overpair like AA/KK. I don't get that at all, because he is going to bet that overpair on the turn anyways, and might fold the flop if you 4-bet. So with calling you get the same result vs overpairs as with 4-betting. If you call and he has for example AK/AQ that decides to bluf, he can hit the turn, and give his chips to you, which wouldn't happen if you 4-bet the flop. What do you think about this? I know you said in vid you could have called, but didn't convince me it's ''w/e''.

7:50 table 3

You 3-bet ''because his fold to 3-bet is high'', and plan to folding to a 4-bet. So basically you 3-bet to take the pot down and see a flop. Why not use other hands that flop better equity if called? Imo you should only 3bet small pairs if your plan is to 5betjam.

9:10 table 1

What is your plan on later streets? I also raise in this spot a lot. A bit too weak to call, but you got same outs if you raise him and get called. I am always lost after that, so would like to hear your plan

10:10 table 6

You check behind, I guess with the intention of calling a turn bet, but what is your plan on the river if he bets? So basically, when you check behind a hand with showdown value, what factors are you taking into consideration for later streets?

16:30 table 4

What is your plan when you call that turn on the river? It is a drawy board, turn brings overcard, so I suppose you get 3barreled a lot here, which will lead to ugly spots, so why not just fold the turn? Or do you think people don't barrel enough and you can safely fold river if he bets again?

So basically when you decide to call a turn like this, what factors do you take into consideration about your plan on the river?


I like the video, esp because you try to explain a lot what your plan is on later streets, and I like that a lot.