Frank1The1Tank - $400 NL CAP

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Frank breaks down his CAP play strategy as he plays 4 tables of $400 NL 6-Max on PokerStars.
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CDoubleU Great vid, I really liked the tourny vids also, esp the live play.

Few questions
-What kinda hours do you play to stay on pace?
-What is your setup like (monitor, software, mouse or hotkeys, tiled or stacked)?
-What do you think is the min BR to 24tbl these games?

Thx
CW
Frank1The1Tank CDoubleU: Thanks, I'll do some more live tourney ones soon enough.

1. Every day I play, I play cap for at least 2 hours sometimes more. Can usually bang out around 2500 hands/hr 24 tabling. I'm a bit behind pace atm though due to cutting my right index finger and some live traveling but I've been catching up quick.

2. I have a windows 7 pc that's pretty powerful. A 32" LCD TV and a 24" LCD. I always stack when playing cash, can't imagine doing it any other way for cap tbh. I have a Razer Lachesis 5600 mouse and a Razer keyboard. I use HEM and tableninja always when playing cash. Also have a herman miller embody chair that is absolutely amazing and I'd recommend to anyone playing poker seriously online.

3. BR requirements is tough to say. You obviously need a lot more available in your account for these cap games as opposed to before when they were 20-50 bb games. You'd just leave the table when you doubled for those. In these cap games I sometimes am sitting with as much as 10 buyins in a single table starting with a min buyin throughout the course of a couple hour session. The variance isn't really that bad as an SNE grinder since you'll never go more than a couple weeks being down after bonuses/fpps. I'd say if you had 20k and were breakeven that would be enough to sustain any sort of downswings that may come along at 2/4.
SixScan it would be nice to see a 24table video from you.

i know it is not much strategy in a 24table video but i just wanna see how u handle this. and u would be the first coach who make a 24table live vid :D
Frank1The1Tank Lol humm maybe I can talk to aej about doing a leggo lite or something? I wouldn't really be able to explain anything because 24 tabling cash doesn't leave much in the way of free time.
IcarusJam Have you received coaching for cap before you started grinding it for sne?
yougotgot You say you raise like 65% against regs OTB. Does it really matter what hands you raise? I mean ya obv sticking with the top 65% is a good way to keep that range consistent so that regs arent shoving on you too much but does the hand you raise really matter? I mean there is no difference between A4o ( a hand you raise in the vid) and J2o (a hand you say you wouldnt raise) since the regs are either folding or shoving and you are folding.
Erice good video

am also interested in seeing a 24 tabling video of these games as well

also, how many vpp/hand do u average on these games?


thanks
Frank1The1Tank IcarusJam: I didn't officially receive coaching but me and another cap reg have talked a lot of strategy about it and are constantly tweaking things to figure out what works best. 20 bb cap is a relatively new form of poker (there are strategy adjustments necessary between cap and 20-50 bb).

yougotgot: Regs are not always shoving or folding. Even I personally flat a decent amount OOP, although less frequent than some other regs. And tbh there are a decent amount of fish that play these games, that tend to flat considerably more. Really terrible hands that have no showdown value and play absolutely terrible postflop (i.e. j2o) just won't show a profit for sure unless both blinds flat 0% of the time (which honestly, that is literally never the case). And even if they were flatting 0%, the regs would adjust to see you are opening an even wider % and shove with a wider range. There's a line that needs to be drawn somewhere. CAP is mainly a numbers game, where stats make up the majority of your decisions and you just have to figure out how to exploit it profitably. I've actually adjusted my strategy a bit since making the video to open less hands on the button now. We'll see how that goes.

Erice: It varies, a fishier table or an ultra aggro table will typically generally more rake due to more flops being seen. I'd say I've averaged something like 0.6 vpp/hand at 2/4 cap.
yougotgot Whats ur calling range on the BTN/CO when you steal and a reg shoves from the blinds?
Frank1The1Tank yougotgot: It depends greatly on the reg and my calling range otb differs greatly in the co. There's other factors too depending on if there's 20 bb stacks or even a couple bb shorter. Also there being a reg whos too tight in the bb or a fish in the bb etc will adjust other regs shoving ranges.
eraser Nice to see a 20bbCAP video. I have a few questions for you.

-13:30 As you mention in the video, against a tight opener, its not profitable to shove AQo from the Btn. So are you going to fold if like a 9-11% opener raises?
-31:30 You say you don't like his check/raise with A5 on KJ8 A. If you are floating him a lot, and don't have too many Ax in your preflop flatting range, don't you think it is good for him to c/r Ax and draws because it will get an extra bet out of your floats and you are folding the vast majority of the time? I can see an argument for check/calling if you are deeper, but a c/shove is only a potsize raise and any Q or a T is a gutshot, I don't see why it is bad to protect with Ax.
-31:50 You say you don't like his small lead here with any part of his range. Don't you think it will often turn your hand face-up and thus setting him up profitable multiplebarrels, with say, random 2overcards or onecard straightdraws?
-35:22 Do you think A8o is too light to shove here? What is your shoving range?
-In general, how do you figure out your squeezing range? I find it can't be memorized like reshoving ranges. There's more dead money, so I think it is often ture that we should shove wider than to a single raiser (unless the coldcaller is very nitty), but how much wider?

-According to PTR(lol), you are losing 1bb/100 at 400NLCAP. Is your EVbb/100 positive and just running bad in bb/100? If you are actually losing in terms of EVbb/100, do you think it is a better idea to grind 200NL and breakeven since the VPP/hand wouldn't differ too much? Sorry if I sound rude by this question, I don't mean to offend you at all.
Frank1The1Tank eraser: 13:30 - Basically if someone opens 12% of hands or less from whatever position theyre opening, it's not going to show a profit to shove AQo. It's closer if we're in the BB and I may shove it vs a 12% opener but def not 11% or lower.

31:30 - Think about the conceivable floats in my range here... T7o, T9o, and Q9o are about the only ones I can think of as I'm definitely not going to float with complete air on that type of board. If I had Kx, Jx or even 8x I wouldn't bet the turn there as I'd just assume he has air most the time and my pair was good and can't get called by worse for value. Due to this, he should just bet again with his Ax to protect his hand rather than let me check behind everything that he could have gotten value from.

31:50 - The problem is the board is extremely connected (765) so leading for 1/3 pot makes his range extremely difficult to balance. If he has air it invites me to float or bluff raise pretty cheaply and prevent him from winning the pot as often as he'd like. If he has a made hand hand it lets me see turns for a lot cheaper. He is OOP so all of these things make for a pretty bad combination for betting really small on this type of board.

35:22 - I don't really like iso raising limpers with Axo with such shallow stacks even in position. If I were in the SB or BB I may have shoved. It was fairly close, but often when I see fish who appear to have aggressive tendencies open limp "UTG" (even 5 handed to a fish utg is utg usually) they are quite doing it with a tighter range. This may be an incorrect assumption but it's something I've seen after grinding these.

As for my PTR showing me down at 2/4 cap I'm pretty sure there's under 100k hands there. For cap a good sample is probably like 300k hands or probably even more. I think I'm also up more at 3/6 cap than I'm down at 2/4 cap, and also up infinitely more at 25/50 cap. It's all kind of meaningless really, as I know my skills are profitable in these games. The reason I'd never play 200 nl cap going for SNE is that even if I lose at a small rate at 400 nl and slightly win at 200 nl, I'll still make more money/hr losing because the VPP/hand differences are considerable. That said, wait a couple months and see if I'm still down, then we'll know if I'm not playing well enough to win. My goal really is to break even 24 tabling, if I win or lose a couple thousand doing so it's meaningless to me. If I were only 12 tabling and was still losing I'd be worried a lot more about my poker game. Oh and btw F*** PTR. I lost 30k flipping at 25/50 6m and most of my mid stakes plo sessions like 5/10 and 10/20 or w/e are me playing hammered but I don't do that anymore. Don't really care what it says though.
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