| apostadorfurtivo |
Dual commentary with Chewy and Aaron I was already expecting some good stuff but man this video its on the next level after AWESOME! Well I mean I'm not sure if I learned something new but for sure it was fun to watch and I loved to hear them discussing and thinking about all possibilites and even some impossibilites :D just great! |
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| lancelott_ |
more of this is what leggo needs |
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| plsticpens |
Thank you. Really enjoyed it.Pretty funny at the beginning when AE says hes gonna let chewy do most of the talking haha... ya right. Please more vids like these!!! |
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| MC TRON |
looking forward to a part 2. Liked the talk about tailoring cbetting range with 2nd pair type hands depending on villain's c/r frequency. Helpful stuff.
Cheers. |
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| TheStudent |
Sorry guys, but I didn't like the vid at all, like totally crap. I watch videos to become a better player, and don't feel this video contributes to that. I mean, obv some interesting spots but I feel like you two guys have soooooooooo much more to offer if you try to be serious. Feels like you two guys are just messing around, without trying to really learn us something, and that's why we are here, right?
Hope to see better stuff in the future, because the ''potential'' is obv there. |
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| zenlife |
video quality 6..........commentary 8-9 |
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| vinivici9586 |
(when checking back likely best hand on river)
BOTH: NOOOOOOOOOO!!!
[explanation]
ae: "we found a leak, though..." |
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| Kesky |
Don't understand the negative comments on this one.
Good entertainment and good general and range strategy info as well.
Pretty much the best possible type of video to watch after you have finished a session and are winding down. |
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| TheStudent |
Yeah I have to say, the ''totally crap'' from me was a bit too much and should not have said that. Only wanted to make a point that I think they can make much better vids with their quality. |
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| aejones |
Yeah I have to say, the ''totally crap'' from me was a bit too much and should not have said that. Only wanted to make a point that I think they can make much better vids with their quality.
You are entitled to your opinion for sure, this is a different type of video; more of an ipod type thing where you just hear what's on our minds. It is not the norm and while we might do one more part, it won't be a standard thing for sure. |
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| guitarizt |
I learned a lot and I only watched first 5 min but I'm a micro fish. > |
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| RunAndGun28 |
I thought it was pretty good. |
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| whorunthis |
Liked it too, but agree that it has more of an entertainment value.
I have more of a I'll take what I can get (from these sharp pokerminds) mentality, so not dissapointed at all. |
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| Timoshi |
Liked it a lot! 10/10 |
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| Vitas23 |
.mp3 only version of this video can be downloaded from the OP. |
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| Koerperkarle |
04:10 you say on a rainbow board people are more inclined to float than on a flushdraw-board, unless they have the spade
Is this because on a rainbow board you have total air also more often (because there way less draws available) and therefore they are getting barreled less often? |
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| jupiter |
Really liked this vid and the fact that I can just listen to it and not have to watch. The back in forth is great not just because it's entertaining but I can hear different opinions of certain spots. Would appreciate a lot more videos of this type. |
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| aejones |
04:10 you say
Is this because on a rainbow board you have total air also more often (because there way less draws available) and therefore they are getting barreled less often?
I think you meant to say because you have total air less often and are going to get barreled less, but the answer is yes. You can only successfully float when your opponent believes your calling range is strong. |
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| Koerperkarle |
Ah so on a rainbow board your calling range looks more like Ax and some pairs so stronger than with the flushdraws / backdoorflushdraws because it's not so likely or not perceived that someone floats with pure air?
I was thinking on a twotone - flop the preflop raiser has more draws because of the flushdraw so he's more likely to barrel so floating becomes less attractive? |
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| aejones |
basically, the less draws that are present on the board the less draws you're likely to have. if you can't have draws, then you must have something iwth some showdown value, and bluffing someone off of something with some showdown value is a lot harder than bluffing them off of something like a gutshot or w/e could be possible on like Q95 boards with a fd.
and on a board with a fd he mechanically has more stuff he's inclined to barrel, so we have to be more worried about a second barrel. |
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| desire |
i have a question about overcalling pre IP w hands like 98s, the situation being the following for example :
MP decent reg opens, CO fish calls, we have 98s OTB, SB (strong reg and can sque wide) and BB (fishier player) left to act.
Now 98s clearly plays well multiway but in order for us to actually win the pot postflop we have to either
a) really mash the board
b) all of the players have to check to us in order for us to take a stab (and its likely either SB or BB will overcall pre and MIGHT be leading so that kind of forces us to play more straightforward given how at least SBs range will be "uncapped" on various textures - by uncapped here i mean certainly he cant have strong hands that he would sque pre with but on the flop he could have draws and strong made hands if he decides to lead).
basically my problem is im not sure if we win the pot enough postflop to play this hand without the lead, and sometimes flopping pairs like 9s or 8s will make us play like call once always fold turns or call once, turn a draw, brick riv and force us to SD a losing hand or whatever.
in general still pretty worried about being like a dead money box in the middle always looking to flop gin but god knows you only hit gin once every 2691 times vs being an aggrotard trying to have the lead every hand i play
recommendations or suggestions or anything useful at all is more than welcome ... |
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| Skr8Flush |
Just wanted to jump on the band-wagon and say that I really enjoyed (and learned) watching this video. More of this, please!
Also to user 'Desire' above... take my advice with a grain of salt but personally I feel like flatting OTB pre with a hand like 89s or 9Ts is more than fine in the situation you described. My thoughts are that the reason for this is because a) we are getting a very good price to call multi-way with a suited/connected hand that can play fairly well post flop and b) we have position on a fish. I agree that if someone is squeezing every chance they get from the blinds that it could be a 3-bet (or most likely a fold) if you truly have that read on the players in the blinds. I understand where you are coming from but I feel like our favorable pot odds and implied odds due to the fish especially make this a profitable call. |
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| aejones |
i have a question about overcalling pre IP w hands like 98s, the situation being the following for example :
MP decent reg opens, CO fish calls, we have 98s OTB, SB (strong reg and can sque wide) and BB (fishier player) left to act.
Now 98s clearly plays well multiway but in order for us to actually win the pot postflop we have to either
a) really mash the board
b) all of the players have to check to us in order for us to take a stab (and its likely either SB or BB will overcall pre and MIGHT be leading so that kind of forces us to play more straightforward given how at least SBs range will be "uncapped" on various textures - by uncapped here i mean certainly he cant have strong hands that he would sque pre with but on the flop he could have draws and strong made hands if he decides to lead).
basically my problem is im not sure if we win the pot enough postflop to play this hand without the lead, and sometimes flopping pairs like 9s or 8s will make us play like call once always fold turns or call once, turn a draw, brick riv and force us to SD a losing hand or whatever.
in general still pretty worried about being like a dead money box in the middle always looking to flop gin but god knows you only hit gin once every 2691 times vs being an aggrotard trying to have the lead every hand i play
recommendations or suggestions or anything useful at all is more than welcome ...
i am certainly flatting less wide in these spots than i used to. however, our "edge" postflop is REALLY important, and i think you're underestimating the above that i bolded. it happens pretty often. people play straightforwardly in multiway pots for the most part (as they well should, it's easy to fade 1 person missing the flo pand it's hard to fade 3 ppl missing it, unless it's like A22r obv).
that isnt' to say we always win when it comes KTx and it checks to us, but i think we win a lot. we shoul dknow about where our pairs our, we can figure out with bet when checked to ranges or simply c-bet ranges in multiway pots from poker tracker (not that i've been playing with a hud lately, but c-betting %s in different spots is certainly a viable statistic that will converge quickly and reliably).
i guess what im saying is that you can use discretion based on player and also your own personal experience. i went through a phase where i was flatting liek nothing there and then chewy reminded me how sweet it is to be in position and squeezing really negates our edge postflop since so few people are going to be calling our squeeze (without aces or something obv). i still fold stuff like 45s (usually) but there are some other hands i'll take a flyer with. i can see flatting there with a sweet balance of strong AXs, good suited face cards, medium SCs, and medium pairs. we hit a lot of boards, our hands play fine multiway, etc. |
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| noirduck |
great vid, bad resolution
btw where did you saw EPT Barcelona s8? I tried pokerstars.tv and pokertube, but haven't found anything.. |
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| aejones |
great vid, bad resolution
btw where did you saw EPT Barcelona s8? I tried pokerstars.tv and pokertube, but haven't found anything..
yea we got a bad resolution leakfinder, this is just gonna be a two parter, after this hopefully i can get chewy to do some on his own and i'll go back to doing some live play videos of midstakes, which i've played a whopping 3k hands of in 3 weeks.
we saw it on canadian tv, they have fucking infinite poker on in canada, i feel like there is at least one show on at almost all times, random tours i had no idea were televised. |
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| rune0714 |
42:25
I like 3 barreling here. AEJones you say that you would bet river on all cards. Which ones wouldn't you bet and why?
I like the video and I think its fine its entertaining too.. |
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