The_End - $1,000 NL Part 1

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Denny kicks off his latest high stakes series on 4 tables of $1,000 NL 6-Max on Stars. Denny discusses capped ranges, how to react to sudden aggression and taking passive lines with marginal holdings.
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NikonBabyface :V ohh yeah
Zaza Gold^^
JoinMyStack Hi denny very nice video!

The last hand with KQ that you reviewed after the video: Can you give some reasons for betting 240? I think just shoving might be good as well, he might even fold some aces ?
redline vid would be nice:)
Zaza I think ur live videos are my favourite ones, if i had to choose.Maybe u could use an overall theme for ur video and try to discuss the different aspects of it while u r 3 tabling with a replayer open as the 4th table.

As far as the kq hand that u covered at the end of the video, I think that ur check call range looks pretty weak.U would prolly shove preflop with alot of ur big hands, and ur flatting range will include alot of broadways type hands that thought it was better to call then shove given the prize he was laying u preflop.There will be some suited connectors in there i guess, but i reckon he wont expect u to flat most of em.I think ur river bet is good though since most of ur range will be ace high type hands that just got there.

Do u think he should bluff the turn maybe a 1/3 pot sized bet to make u fold all ur floats?
Would u have folded to a turn bet while turning the gutter?

Thx sick vid as usual.
GL
Probability K4 hand at the beginning is just awesome.
vinivici9586 laughed at 29:10ish "i'm just going to...uh, how do you say it?...i'm just going to fold".

your vids are excellent. hope to see more soon.
TheStudent Also liked it, but have seen better. "i c/r 55 because i feel like it" for example. But good to see ur back!
urak Great vid and excellent commentary.Keep up the good work!
JamesMa lol @ the secret notes in dutch, denny u still got the skills even after that layoff
bw07507 Watching b/c I see what looks to be part of a hot chick in the bottom right hand corner of your vid.
zenlife great video........red line video would be nice.
bw07507 Around 9:30 do you ever ch/call the river to let fish bet busted FD and SDs? I don't see him calling that river with worse than Kx ever once it runs out like that.
JamesMa The name Action Denny was well deserved in this vid
The_End Hey guys, good to be back!

Hi denny very nice video!

The last hand with KQ that you reviewed after the video: Can you give some reasons for betting 240? I think just shoving might be good as well, he might even fold some aces ?
redline vid would be nice:)


I thought a smaller betsizing would do the trick, but after thinking about it, you may be right. Quite tough to call with small Aces if I shove, whereas with my bet he might get curious. Also seems better for balancing's sake, so next time I'll try the shove.
The_End
I think ur live videos are my favourite ones, if i had to choose.Maybe u could use an overall theme for ur video and try to discuss the different aspects of it while u r 3 tabling with a replayer open as the 4th table.

As far as the kq hand that u covered at the end of the video, I think that ur check call range looks pretty weak.U would prolly shove preflop with alot of ur big hands, and ur flatting range will include alot of broadways type hands that thought it was better to call then shove given the prize he was laying u preflop.There will be some suited connectors in there i guess, but i reckon he wont expect u to flat most of em.I think ur river bet is good though since most of ur range will be ace high type hands that just got there.

Do u think he should bluff the turn maybe a 1/3 pot sized bet to make u fold all ur floats?
Would u have folded to a turn bet while turning the gutter?

Thx sick vid as usual.
GL


I misexplained it a bit. What I meant by looking strong once I c/c, is that my hand looks like either a slowplayed big hand or Ace high hands. And I don't think many players would try to get me to fold it, because they know I have a hard time letting even the Ace highs go.

I think you have described my flop flattingrange well though, and indeed, to make that range 'suffer' the most, it is by betting the turn small and shoving the river. No idea what I would've done with KQ tbh.

Thanks for the kind words and feedback!
The_End
Around 9:30 do you ever ch/call the river to let fish bet busted FD and SDs? I don't see him calling that river with worse than Kx ever once it runs out like that.


Yes I like it, very good point. I usually do start out by valuebetting, because not all fish bluff draws and it's so annoying if they show me midpair/worse TP.

In this situation, with a not-so-strong King, and with the Ace turn and Jack river (both scarecards for midpair) and the fact that there's FD ánd SD's out there, I like a check a lot.
The_End
Also liked it, but have seen better. "i c/r 55 because i feel like it" for example. But good to see ur back!


Got lazy there for a second ;) What I should've said is that I expect him to almost always bet that turn once he checks back flop, so it'd be a great spot to go for a value c/r. Also, given that I expect him to bet FD's on the flop, he is capped and I could have every flush. So, with the 5s as a small backup, I decided to represent that flush.
The_End Red line vid is coming up, I'll continue to focus on that more during future video's, since it is not so easily covered in a single one.
Donktard Hard to concentrate whilst looking at Elisha Cuthbert and f0rhayley is a real tough opponent

Very good vid
Kesky This is top drawer quality, best 6max vid of the year. 10/10 like a boss.

The first hand blew my mind a little bit, to be honest.
jjooeeyy This is good stuff. Glad to see u around again man.
lancelott_ i literally was not, or could be not listening to whatever Denny was talking about poker in the end of the vid, was just staring at that desktop. impossible to concentrate
thx for vid anyways, love ur stuff, keep em comming
dangerfish Denny, the 99 hand where you end up bluffing the river on the 4 str8 kxxx board was very interesting to me. Your read is that Kx should fold enough to make that the best play surprised me. I would have expected given your image that getting villain off of Kx would be optimistic. Are u also bluffing for the rare times your 99 is good but checking induces bluffs from all worse hands that got to the river? Just a spot where I would have never bet 3x and I am curious if you felt it was clear that it was the best play or was it so close that it is not a spot I should be concerned that I would have played differently?
habanero Can you link to the AEjones article you talk about on turn checkraising, I can not seem to find it. Thanks!
Beans
Can you link to the AEjones article you talk about on turn checkraising, I can not seem to find it. Thanks!


http://www.leggopoker.com/forums/private-strategy-forum/having-turn-check-raising-range-6625.html
The_End
Denny, the 99 hand where you end up bluffing the river on the 4 str8 kxxx board was very interesting to me. Your read is that Kx should fold enough to make that the best play surprised me. I would have expected given your image that getting villain off of Kx would be optimistic. Are u also bluffing for the rare times your 99 is good but checking induces bluffs from all worse hands that got to the river? Just a spot where I would have never bet 3x and I am curious if you felt it was clear that it was the best play or was it so close that it is not a spot I should be concerned that I would have played differently?


I don't think it matters too much if you choose a different line in this hand. I do think that it'd be a very tough call with Kx there, and it also helps if he had a worse hand than mine, because checking would almost certainly lose me the hand.
Prologion Hey, very nice vid:)

Here are 2 questions:

Min. 16.30 (Explanation why not X/Ring turns):

I also do rarely X/R turn vs. 2ndBar. Against REGs to protect my X/Call-range there and for balance….
But I do not agree that there are better semibluffinglines vs. 2ndbarells by starting with a check…
X/C – lead River is pointless and destroys all the balance-point and what else can you do OOP?

Min. 18 – T9s:
Ah, not sure if you can rely here 100% that Villains would fold here their bluffcatchers always to an overstab -> hence your logic behind overstabing here to make it cheaper and remove the need of betting twice might be wrong here in a decent %-tage.
The_End
Hey, very nice vid:)

Here are 2 questions:

Min. 16.30 (Explanation why not X/Ring turns):

I also do rarely X/R turn vs. 2ndBar. Against REGs to protect my X/Call-range there and for balance….
But I do not agree that there are better semibluffinglines vs. 2ndbarells by starting with a check…
X/C – lead River is pointless and destroys all the balance-point and what else can you do OOP?


Hey,

I meant that in the spot you mentioned, a better line would be imo to either do something else on the flop (lead or c/r) or just c/f the turn. I try to play my draws according to what I predict is going to happen on the turn. So, contrary to what a lot of players think, I rather c/c a NFD on the flop than a 9 high FD, just in case he bets the turn again, with the NFD I can call again, usually.


Min. 18 – T9s:
Ah, not sure if you can rely here 100% that Villains would fold here their bluffcatchers always to an overstab -> hence your logic behind overstabing here to make it cheaper and remove the need of betting twice might be wrong here in a decent %-tage.


Yea, sometimes I misconstruct people's turn calling range and give up on the river when I actually should bet. This could be one of those cases. Still doesn't make a turn overbet bad though, just because he'll fold a lot anyways.
Prologion hey, thx for answering - very helpful post regards exspecially to my 1st question:)
Prologion Hey, just have finally completed the vid and would have 2 more questions, if this is ok^^

Min. 30: KK
Here I will be probably very off b/c I don`t know your image and so…
It is just that me personally would not get it in so happily in here on the flop for 140BB.
The reason is that ppl are imo not going so super often broke here with for example AJo like for 100BB (the jam after got 3bet is much more expensive and hence you need more FEQ to make te whole play in itself overall +ev – b/c AJo is not a favourite vs. your broke-range here).
So I just wonder in general how much it might affect such situations where you go for 100BB with a smile broke, compared when you are effectively deeper…?

As played,
I am not sure if you rly can val.bet the river.
Might be again wrong here, but I have paused here the vid and tried to predict the answer if we val.bet when Villain checks or not.
I have come to the conclusion that his perceived range for X/R/Call your 3bet are draws , mb some Ax-hands and maybe maybe the bottomset which only calls your 3bet 140BB deep (although you are not 200+ BB deep, so I guess that bottomset is still easily the nuts here, likely even more vs. an aggr. REG like you are).
Anyways,
I just thought that there are no real bluffcatchers in his range regards to hands you beat?
Maybe I am too pessimistic about him X/Ring on the flop TPs…, being deeper…

Min. 45.30 – 44:
If the river would have totally blanked out (and also on this river), would you feel like jamming if villain would have checked to you to mb make some Ax-hands to fold? Btw. Do you line in his shoes in such a spot betting on the turn with Ax-hands?

And btw., i just love your ideas for the future Vids:)
The_End Hey Prologion,

KK:
I would be happy to get it in on this flop even for 200bb. That doesn't mean I always raise and reraise a 3bet or something. Sometimes I call to keep ranges a bit wider. If you feel uncomfortable with your own image raising and getting it in, then there's nothing wrong with calling.

River I decided that he would bet if he had better, but I am not sure if that is correct. I think the next time I should just bet the turn though. It keeps my range the widest and I believe there is still enough value.

44:
Yes the plan was to shove. Weird spot for Villain with Ax... Betting the turn seems best to keep the initiative, but it leaves you on a very awkward spot on the river. A possible alternative is c/c turn and as long as you do that sometimes with Kx (or are perceived to do so) then c/c c/f also seems like an ok option.
Prologion
Hey Prologion,

KK:
I would be happy to get it in on this flop even for 200bb. That doesn't mean I always raise and reraise a 3bet or something. Sometimes I call to keep ranges a bit wider. If you feel uncomfortable with your own image raising and getting it in, then there's nothing wrong with calling.

River I decided that he would bet if he had better, but I am not sure if that is correct. I think the next time I should just bet the turn though. It keeps my range the widest and I believe there is still enough value.

44:
Yes the plan was to shove. Weird spot for Villain with Ax... Betting the turn seems best to keep the initiative, but it leaves you on a very awkward spot on the river. A possible alternative is c/c turn and as long as you do that sometimes with Kx (or are perceived to do so) then c/c c/f also seems like an ok option.



Hey,
thanks for your replies:)
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