In this video Mirza reviews a $200 NL 6-Max session played by Leggo member "mindinabox" on 4 deep/ante tables on Stars. Mirza discusses how to combat light 4-betting, cold 4-betting with deep stacks, and how we should adjust our overall game plan given overall stack depth.
Very good video man.You cover the spots really well as always.Glad to see how plays one of the best regs at 100nl. Helps me improve my game.
I liked also that it was 200nl deep.
At 19:26 table 1
Given that he is cbeting more polarized and could check back Tx, 7x and maybe some weak Kx isn't better to just c/c and evaluate on river ? Not sure , just a thought. My standard is also to bet.
With AKo around 05.40 minutes in:
You say that you want to 5-bet is as a bluff. When saying thai suppouse that you then will fold it to a
pre-flop 6-bet.
Is that correct or do I misunderstand you?
Around 27 min in with AQs, where we call the cold-4 bet
You say that you don't like the lead and I like your arguments for it.
But you also say that you would like to CR instead. But that I don't understand. Because you have just mentioned that you don't think we can rep anything credible on that board.
So why do you check-raise?
Isn't CR a bad idea as well if we cannot rep anything due to our pre-flop action?
I think the flop is closer than you make it seem like.
On the flop we need to call 14$ into a pot that will be: 76$
IE: We need 18% equity to make a direct pot odds call
Lets for examples sake say he always got KTo (You say that you think he is weighted towards TP)
If he always got KTo we got 9% equity (If we only get the option to see one more card)
To make a correct call we need to win on average when we hit our straigt: 154$
Calc: 9/100 = x
x*14$ = 154$
If we think he is very weighted towards Kx. I def. think that we will on average win +154$ if we hit our straigt card on the turn.
And sometimes he will obv just CF the turn / the turn could go check,check and we get to see to cards. And thereby actually get direct pot odds on our call
Let me know what you think of these assumptions/calculations, please
With AKo around 05.40 minutes in:
You say that you want to 5-bet is as a bluff. When saying thai suppouse that you then will fold it to a
pre-flop 6-bet.
Is that correct or do I misunderstand you?
Around 27 min in with AQs, where we call the cold-4 bet
You say that you don't like the lead and I like your arguments for it.
But you also say that you would like to CR instead. But that I don't understand. Because you have just mentioned that you don't think we can rep anything credible on that board.
So why do you check-raise?
Isn't CR a bad idea as well if we cannot rep anything due to our pre-flop action?
I think i misspoke as I wouldnt choose a hand as strong as ak as a 5bet bluffing hand.A hand like Ax would be better suited in this case.
As far as the Aqs spot, again I didnt express myself well , c/r definitely isnt a very good option unless u are known to flat most of ur value range.I think given the higher frequency of cold4betting and 4betting overall given the stack depth we should have a 5b range, especially since people will float with some suited broadways and other SC's. Again I think i stressed this in the vid , this is a unique situation given the stack depth.
As u said i covered the cons of leading of that spot in the video.
I think the flop is closer than you make it seem like.
On the flop we need to call 14$ into a pot that will be: 76$
IE: We need 18% equity to make a direct pot odds call
Lets for examples sake say he always got KTo (You say that you think he is weighted towards TP)
If he always got KTo we got 9% equity (If we only get the option to see one more card)
To make a correct call we need to win on average when we hit our straigt: 154$
Calc: 9/100 = x
x*14$ = 154$
If we think he is very weighted towards Kx. I def. think that we will on average win +154$ if we hit our straigt card on the turn.
And sometimes he will obv just CF the turn / the turn could go check,check and we get to see to cards. And thereby actually get direct pot odds on our call
Let me know what you think of these assumptions/calculations, please
I m not the best math guy but it seems off.
However I think I underestimated the implied odds and the depthness behind.
So I would suggest a float to be ok after all.
2 min ~ Table 4 hero call 89s in the BB vs BTN open. Flop comes 56Ass with gives us a gutshot. Villain cbets and we c/r. Generally what is your plan going to be for this hand when called? If I would have played it I would probably have 3barreled a diamond on the turn. Maybe 3barrel if the turn is a 4? I don't really know what I would have done if turn is like K,Q,J for example, cuz when he calls the flopraise he probably has a fair amount of Ax. I feel like generally when we raise this flop we should go 3 streets. What do you think about my thoughts?
11.50 min ~ Table 2 hero 3bets K7s BB vs CO open. Generally when being deep, this seems like a spot where we could get ourself into alot of trouble. Idk, 100bbs deep its obv way different. What type of range do u think is good to bet 3bet oop deep? Cuz when I watched flippitys vid about deep play, I got the impression that 3beting hands like this OOP u wanna stay away from. What do u think?
11.50 ~ Table 1 we call a 3bet w/JJ BU vs SB. Flop comes 67Tr, villan cbet we call. Turn is a Q, villain bets again and we fold. First off on the turn, do u think that he is going to be valuebetting a worse hand, like some Tx? I think its probably possible. But overall, the guy had a somewhat low cbet stat, even though it was not in 3betpots, I think it still gives us some idea that he issn't cbeting a ton. Do you agree so far? When thinking about our range when calling the flop, we are probably percieved to be raising sets and straights given that we are deep. So your range issn't that strong imo. But it just feels like when we have JJ, we are blocking a fair amount of straightdraws he could be barreling with. And the board is such that he can have alot of pretty good hands like straights, bunch of 2pairs, AQ etc. What do u think?
Excellent vid man. Hope that it doesn't take long before the next part is out. good job
2 min ~ Table 4 hero call 89s in the BB vs BTN open. Flop comes 56Ass with gives us a gutshot. Villain cbets and we c/r. Generally what is your plan going to be for this hand when called? If I would have played it I would probably have 3barreled a diamond on the turn. Maybe 3barrel if the turn is a 4? I don't really know what I would have done if turn is like K,Q,J for example, cuz when he calls the flopraise he probably has a fair amount of Ax. I feel like generally when we raise this flop we should go 3 streets. What do you think about my thoughts?
I think ur reasoning is sound here. I would say he comes to the river with alot of ace x and still has some pairs or str8draws on the turn, so I would keep firing on alot of turns.Ur plan of firing diamonds is very good as well.
Wether this is a good spot to ch/r bet bet on blanks really depends on ur image and how call happy villain is.The deeper u get the more people expect u to check raise bluff and apply pressure.Another reason why I dont think bluffing 3 streets on blanks is that good is our very wide preflop flatting range, given the antes and the stack depthness we will be defending much wider than on regular tables.
11.50 min ~ Table 2 hero 3bets K7s BB vs CO open. Generally when being deep, this seems like a spot where we could get ourself into alot of trouble. Idk, 100bbs deep its obv way different. What type of range do u think is good to bet 3bet oop deep? Cuz when I watched flippitys vid about deep play, I got the impression that 3beting hands like this OOP u wanna stay away from. What do u think?
Yes, u shouldnt 3bet a wide range oop this deep.Although there are some exceptions that make 3betting wide oop deep ok: If u are facing a weaker and very passive regular or fish, cos he wont put u in very many tough spots and u can apply a ton of pressure since they mostly fast play their big hands given the stack depthness.
In general though u shouldnt have a wide bluffing range and keep ur range polarized.
11.50 ~ Table 1 we call a 3bet w/JJ BU vs SB. Flop comes 67Tr, villan cbet we call. Turn is a Q, villain bets again and we fold. First off on the turn, do u think that he is going to be valuebetting a worse hand, like some Tx? I think its probably possible. But overall, the guy had a somewhat low cbet stat, even though it was not in 3betpots, I think it still gives us some idea that he issn't cbeting a ton. Do you agree so far? When thinking about our range when calling the flop, we are probably percieved to be raising sets and straights given that we are deep. So your range issn't that strong imo. But it just feels like when we have JJ, we are blocking a fair amount of straightdraws he could be barreling with. And the board is such that he can have alot of pretty good hands like straights, bunch of 2pairs, AQ etc. What do u think?
Ye I think the fact that he doesnt cbet a lot makes a good argument for folding.I dont think we should fast play our sets this early into the session where he hadnt created this sort of dynamic.So raising sets here possibly wouldnt be the best play.Especially if we think he has a pretty strong range.
I think this was a good fold as played though as the combination of his tight 3betting range out of position and his tight cbet range make this a very iffy spot for us to be in by the river.
Excellent vid man. Hope that it doesn't take long before the next part is out. good job
