Mirza continues his "Mentoring" series by reviewing the 2nd part of the $50 NL 6-Max session played by Leggo member "shinigammi" on Stars. Topics include; the importance of your perceived range in spots where you are trying to induce bluffs from your opponent, raising c-bets in 3-bet pots, and how you should combat aggressive 3-bettors.
What about c/c flop? Vs a reg I always c-bet because otherwise your hand is so face up, but I don't think that's the case vs a fish. Also, you can't really get better to fold, worse to call, and don't really need to protect. (you mentioned in the vid he could have 35 so a straight draw, but that's very unlikely imo). And also, what would have been our plan without the K of hearts? Just c-bet and give up I guess? I think c/c is worse in that case because you need a bit more of protection.
14:20 table 4
I also like a 3-bet more here fwiw, but as played, why not 4bet? Seems like an optimal spot for a squeeze, because of positions, so his range should be weaker. Or is this a bad option because we don't rep much because we are likely to 3bet our big hands pre flop?
What would you have done with a hand like 67s/78s? Is this strong enough to call because we can play a multiway pot IP with the fish?
42:22 table 2
What do you think about the 3bet in the first place? I didn't like it at all, especially because of the fish behind us. We will have a low SPR when get called, and I don't see a reason why you would like that with a suited connector. I would probaly fold here, unless I feel like the fish is going to call a big amount of the time. I rather 3-bet hands like KJo, because even if the fish calls, we can flop top pair and get it in. Thoughts?
44:35 table 6
What is the reason for our 3bet? I would 3-bet in the sb because there is someone left to act and our hand doesn't play well vs a squeeze or multiway OOP, but in the bb vs a 2.5x opening range, I feel like we crush his range, so our hand is strong enough to call.
44:54 table 1
Do you like christos c-bet sizing? He made it already pretty big on the flop, but I would even make it a bit bigger, so I don't have the overbet on the turn left, so villain is more likely to call with a draw or something.
Liked the vid again guys, good job. Gonna raise some 3-bet pots today I guess, hehe.
What about c/c flop? Vs a reg I always c-bet because otherwise your hand is so face up, but I don't think that's the case vs a fish. Also, you can't really get better to fold, worse to call, and don't really need to protect. (you mentioned in the vid he could have 35 so a straight draw, but that's very unlikely imo). And also, what would have been our plan without the K of hearts? Just c-bet and give up I guess? I think c/c is worse in that case because you need a bit more of protection.
I think ak is a clear value bet on the flop vs a fish here, he s gonna call with so many more worse ace high m random broadways with backdoor flushdraws in them, and the time he s ahead we can get em off alot of his weaker parts of his range. U are being to pessimistic about a fish range here.
I would play the ak (w/o heart) similarly since there are a few good barrel cards on the turn , combined with the fact we have the best hand alot as I mentionned earlier.Ive had alot of success with this line vs fish , cbet for thinn value ch c turn, ch decide river.
14:20 table 4
I also like a 3-bet more here fwiw, but as played, why not 4bet? Seems like an optimal spot for a squeeze, because of positions, so his range should be weaker. Or is this a bad option because we don't rep much because we are likely to 3bet our big hands pre flop?
I dont think any of the options are bad besides calling the squeeze.U can never go wrong by 4betting here with these blockers especially. As far as repping goes, I think we should slowplay the strongest part of our range here unless we got an aggor 3bet dynamic with the iso raiser, since alot of good things can happen here. First we can play a pot with a fish IP , and 2ndly there s a very good chance someone behind us squeezes since its a good spt for it.
What would you have done with a hand like 67s/78s? Is this strong enough to call because we can play a multiway pot IP with the fish?
Yes we can definitely play a pot ip here profitably given the fish left to act.
42:22 table 2
What do you think about the 3bet in the first place? I didn't like it at all, especially because of the fish behind us. We will have a low SPR when get called, and I don't see a reason why you would like that with a suited connector. I would probaly fold here, unless I feel like the fish is going to call a big amount of the time. I rather 3-bet hands like KJo, because even if the fish calls, we can flop top pair and get it in. Thoughts?
I dont think the fish is gonna call very often in this situation once we 3bet, so that shouldnt be a big issue, that being said i think kj plays better than 78s since we have more equity vs his overall range that way.I dont think that 3betting it in general though from time to time , is a big deal. The fish in the blind should make us flat wider ip here overall.
44:35 table 6
What is the reason for our 3bet? I would 3-bet in the sb because there is someone left to act and our hand doesn't play well vs a squeeze or multiway OOP, but in the bb vs a 2.5x opening range, I feel like we crush his range, so our hand is strong enough to call.
[B]Our hand is definitely more than strong enough to call, this is more of a value 3bet i guess.I would usually call with kj here tho in the big blind in general, and 3bet it out of the sb.
If u have some extentive history and feel like he calls 3bets too light and opens aloooot of button 60% plus we can definitely 3bet this for value.[/B]
44:54 table 1
Do you like christos c-bet sizing? He made it already pretty big on the flop, but I would even make it a bit bigger, so I don't have the overbet on the turn left, so villain is more likely to call with a draw or something.
I think u can go either way, and overall I would prefer a lil bit bigger bet on the flop close to pot, but given we block tp by having top set I prefer to make it a nodge smaller.I know its a small difference but it definitely ways into a bit of a smaller bet sizing on the flop.I dont think his calling range on the turn changes much wether he has a draw or not he s not getting the right prize to make the call if it s a small overbet or not.
Liked the vid again guys, good job. Gonna raise some 3-bet pots today I guess, hehe.
Good job ZAZA ,great series!
One question min 33 table 2,
What do you think about Value betting OTR and about sizing(6.50$ in 8.50$)
I mean,the hand is played vs Standard TAG (236 hands sample 18/15),what kind of hands will pay us in this spot?
Isn't better if we consider to have the best hand to bet smalish in this spot,or maybe chck/call???
Is this a standard spot to bet/fold OTR,aren't we transforming a hand with SD value into a bluff???
Once V raise is a def fold???
Good job ZAZA ,great series!
One question min 33 table 2,
What do you think about Value betting OTR and about sizing(6.50$ in 8.50$)
I mean,the hand is played vs Standard TAG (236 hands sample 18/15),what kind of hands will pay us in this spot?
Isn't better if we consider to have the best hand to bet smalish in this spot,or maybe chck/call???
Is this a standard spot to bet/fold OTR,aren't we transforming a hand with SD value into a bluff???
Once V raise is a def fold???
Good question mate.I didnt really think enough about it at the time, and looking at it back now,there's really no hand that we beat and as the hand was played, there s no bluffs in his range either. I mean the big blind being a fish makes his leading range here on the flop even stronger 3way.And then u think about the bluffs he can have its gonna involve some kq k10 q10 type hands which he would always continue betting on the turn so when he checks the turn , it looks like he has some kind of 9x or jx and since I dont think people at 50 nl check raise bluff rivers , we dont really get called on the river by anything worst, since he doesnt have any worst jx in his range, so it actually mite be a check back like u mentionned and if we were to bet it should be very small to induce a check raise bluff.
Good thing u brough this up.
