| aejones |
I'm quite sure everyone knows who Adam is because he's been around a long time. He's good friends with some really good players who give him credit for being a poker confidant. Chewy and I both watched his video and approve-- I'm quite sure you guys will have a lot to learn from someone who has been winning at midstakes for such a long time.
I think by now we also have the entire talent pool locked up at 500NL Zoom on Stars... |
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| housenuts |
volume is really low |
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| housenuts |
now for comments about the video since i just fully watched it.
overall i liked it and think you are a great addition to the leggo team.
zoom is always good. i think the pace of the video was fairly good. lots of hands interspersed with good thoughts. wouldn't mind seeing a live video too.
cheers |
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| Prologion |
nice add for the leggo-team^^
Min. 3.40 - KJo:
Would call here and prefer a 4b in BTNvsSB.
Gith 3bets in SBvsBTN way more depolar (KJo does poorly then postflop) compared to BBvsBTN (where he flats more often some KQ, AJ-combos and 3bets in general more polarized, so that KJo plays IP decently, imo).
Will continue watching for sure but one question upfront (though you do not have to answer of course if you should find this question to indiscrete):
Advantages of zoom are obv. that you can get a decent volume w/o having to make "lobby-work" all the time... and hence it is pretty comfortable to grind zoom.
as known, you beat very good MSNL-games at the reg tables - have you found so far (if you already have at zoom a decent sample) a WR-decrease? If so, how big of a WR-decrease is it?
It is just that I have talked with some zoomregs and they have found all a WR-decrease.
That is actually no surprise b/c it is hard to believe that zoomgames are more profitable than reg-games if you are not the worst person at gameselecting due to that facts that the Fish/reg-ratio is slighlty worse on average and fishes are tighter (= make less preflop-mistakes which then lead to huge, costly postflopmistakes...) |
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| adam001 |
I think KJo plays pretty terribly in 3b pot even in position, so I think its the worst option. It has 2 broadway blockers to hands he would be 3bing for value and hands I might 4b for value so I think its a decent hand to choose as a 4b bluff, with folding being a close 2nd best option.
As for winrates, for me personally my winrate will likely drastically increase in zoom, because I used to 12-24 table regular games while also constantly monitoring lobby for good games, which took a lot of focus away from the tables. While I think my auto-pilot game is pretty decent and balanced, with zoom I can now fully focus on the tables and only have 4 at a time going, which means I wont miss any spots and can really analyze every hand and situation i am in as well as i am capable of. |
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| Zaza |
yo welcome to leggo man!!!
I thought it was a good starting vid, and liked that u talked about ur overall gameplan for a hand rather than brushing over some aspects of a hand.
Do u base the kjo decision facing a 3bet based on the 3bettors 3bet % or do u just always 4bet bluff it, I mean surely they can be a spot where u can profitably defend it.So my question is , do u have a cutoff where u stop 4betting it and call it?
thx hope to see more stuff soon |
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| adam001 |
I dont 4b KJo 100% of the time lol, but in this spot I thought gith was likely to be A) 3bing me with a wider then usual range early on and B) more likely to think I wasn't 4b bluffing right off the bat with no dynamic yet. |
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| DooMeR |
Love the video. Really good everything. Only complaint is the volume but besides that adam is one of my favorite coaches already :] |
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| Probability |
we asked adam for a 15 minute sample video and he turned in a 2 hour video, the first half is what you saw today. i watched the whole thing and thought it was great. aaron, steel, and vitas all agreed.
adam, you have a very unique style and a great way of articulating your thoughts. really excited to see more. welcome to the team. |
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| hq7878 |
Love it :)
More zoom |
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| Vitas23 |
I'll work on getting the audio better within the next 24 hours. |
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| rewket |
Great videos. You still need to ease into the video making but your play is great. Best way to see a great player is when the games looks easy and boring because they're not making mistakes. Making the best decision pf always brings easier decisions later on. Hopefully we see more than 1 video a month from you.
Audio is 10/10 when downloaded to my harddrive using gaming Razor headphones.
Probably bad on the stream though but thats a known issue |
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| NikonBabyface |
welcome Adam! i'ts really cool vid. I liked. |
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| Prologion |
14.20 - 97s:
On any non-diamond Turn, unless maybe on a T(?) we would like to fire the turn again b/C the fishe`s flopcallrange is anyways wide and the reg`s flopcallrange is capped to mostly Tx and fDs once he did not raise OTF, I guess?
What about plans OTR then?
For example:
On a diamond we shut down when the reg or both called OTT - btw what is when only hte fish called OTT?
Do we bluff vs. one or both should the river be a non-diamond Highcard?
Would you consider to fire the river unimproved at any other rivercards in a particular scenario? |
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| gianttwinky |
First hand
Could you go a bit more into detail about why you 3bet the A2s sb/co vs a fish? Do you expect to have much preflop FE? Postflop FE? What cbet size would you make it on K62r? What's your plan on ace high boards? |
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| baba |
Hey Adam, liked the video, you explain your thoughts well.
One question regarding the 68 hand v 10k-in-clay at 18 mins on the 653r5 flop, had he bet the river you said you were playing your hand like 66's and shoving. Would like to hear some more of your thoughts about shoving over a river bet. When you play hands like this are you approaching it based on a theorical standpoint, as in this is one of the best hands to balance your value shoves, you need some bluffs in your range and therefore you'd always shove with this hand. (providing the stacks allow you too ofc) Or are you less concerned about being balanced and just making the decision to bluff shove based on the villians turn bet size?
Would really like to see the powerpoint presentation you mentioned....anything theory based ticks my boxes. Alternatively a hh replayer on hands you've triple barrel bluffed could be interesting since you mention triple barreling a lot in the video.
Cheers,
babaar. |
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| baba |
Just a quick after thought on the 653r52 hand, were you betting as a bluff when checked too on all river cards? (i.e not just on the 4-straight river) |
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| nmnmnm |
real bad audio (low vol + quality). thanks for the content though |
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| adam001 |
14.20 - 97s:
On any non-diamond Turn, unless maybe on a T(?) we would like to fire the turn again b/C the fishe`s flopcallrange is anyways wide and the reg`s flopcallrange is capped to mostly Tx and fDs once he did not raise OTF, I guess?
What about plans OTR then?
For example:
On a diamond we shut down when the reg or both called OTT - btw what is when only hte fish called OTT?
Do we bluff vs. one or both should the river be a non-diamond Highcard?
Would you consider to fire the river unimproved at any other rivercards in a particular scenario?
yeah on non D's I fire the turn pretty much 100% there, just range vs range wise im going to have the best hand quite often on turn. If I get called by the fish and the reg folds on turn, id always bet overcards, and possibly consider betting a d, but probably just shut down on lower cards and d's. If the fish folded and the reg called, id fire all non d's, and crai on a T. If they both called turn id probably fire all non d's/T's again because now I think theres a bigger chance the fish folds to an AI bet on river with a T 3 ways. |
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| adam001 |
First hand
Could you go a bit more into detail about why you 3bet the A2s sb/co vs a fish? Do you expect to have much preflop FE? Postflop FE? What cbet size would you make it on K62r? What's your plan on ace high boards?
fish in general just call too many 3bs and then play straightforward postflop. So my plan vs them is almost always to be aggressive. If there are all regs behind I think its important at higher stakes to 3b most of your range vs them, then add a few slowplays + low pp's perhaps to balance vs all the times you get squeezed when you flat.
If there are fish behind that you dont mind taking the pot 3 ways with, then I think flatting is a more viable option. I dont expect to have much pf FE, and I expect him to play bad/passively/straightforward post, so thats why I choose to 3b a lot vs fish. on K62r id cbet half pot or less, and on A high flops id usually opt for a c/c. I basically dont balance at all vs fish because not only does it not matter, but its almost certainly -EV. |
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| adam001 |
Hey Adam, liked the video, you explain your thoughts well.
One question regarding the 68 hand v 10k-in-clay at 18 mins on the 653r5 flop, had he bet the river you said you were playing your hand like 66's and shoving. Would like to hear some more of your thoughts about shoving over a river bet. When you play hands like this are you approaching it based on a theorical standpoint, as in this is one of the best hands to balance your value shoves, you need some bluffs in your range and therefore you'd always shove with this hand. (providing the stacks allow you too ofc) Or are you less concerned about being balanced and just making the decision to bluff shove based on the villians turn bet size?
Would really like to see the powerpoint presentation you mentioned....anything theory based ticks my boxes. Alternatively a hh replayer on hands you've triple barrel bluffed could be interesting since you mention triple barreling a lot in the video.
Cheers,
babaar.
Yeah its a combination of balance + me just thinking he doesn't have a boat based on sizing before river. |
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| adam001 |
Just a quick after thought on the 653r52 hand, were you betting as a bluff when checked too on all river cards? (i.e not just on the 4-straight river)
Since I put a decent chunk of his turn betting range on thin value hands, I was definitely going to be firing all river cards when checked to as I could only rep 1 bluff combo (78) and I think he thinks I fold turn with that a decent amount of the time, even to his small sizing. I also don't expect him to think im double floating to bluff river. |
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| Vitas23 |
real bad audio (low vol + quality). thanks for the content though
I strongly recommend downloading the video vs. streaming it. |
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| livedonk36 |
Great addition, great video. Please keep making them. :) |
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| baba |
yeah on non D's I fire the turn pretty much 100% there, just range vs range wise im going to have the best hand quite often on turn. If I get called by the fish and the reg folds on turn, id always bet overcards, and possibly consider betting a d, but probably just shut down on lower cards and d's. If the fish folded and the reg called, id fire all non d's, and crai on a T. If they both called turn id probably fire all non d's/T's again because now I think theres a bigger chance the fish folds to an AI bet on river with a T 3 ways.
your crai all in when the tp paired on the river? I assume this is against a decent reg who can lay down rivered trips. |
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| adam001 |
yes, only vs certain regs id do that vs, probably should have specified that. |
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| RunAndGun28 |
super solid addition to the team. couldn't think of too many players better you could have added.
congrats adam |
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| desire |
cool video adam and liked the zoom format a lot !
i was wondering about the KQ hand where you c/c flop on like A94 2tone with no bdfd or anything and you even contemplated calling turn, i don't see how you can justify calling there with basically 0% eq vs Ax and even if villain has a draw he has a ton of equity and sometimes he will get there/bluff rivers.
Also another question was about the 54s hand where you 3b COvsBTN and cb KJ9 2tone where u didnt even have the bdfd, do u really think tripling there is a good play with ATC (well clearly not 100% of the time automatically or anything, but in general), you had basically the nutlow with no draws and even though i agree that its a board where if you DO start barreling you have to follow through bricks bc of all the pair+draw hands. i wont bother doing the math here but basically a lot of the time by the river either a T J Q K A will come on the board which will either make it a 4straight board or pair one of the cards that he is very likely to have hit and never be folding (J/K), adding the fact that u have absolutely nothing to improve to and some of the time something completely random will happen like he is going to c/jam turn or he is going to block-lead river like he did this time (basically forcing you to not-bluff and you cant call bc u have like 5 high) + sometimes he simply wont fold KQ for like 3 streets.
also another small q, have u always played without the hud ? and are u at all worried about the fact that some of the blocker 3bets that u are making vs earlier position openers might be too loose simply bc some of them might be opening like 10% of hands UTG or only 15% from MP or something or do you think that having blockers + position + you arent 3betting those 100% of the time make it random enough and thus good ?
this got long : ) |
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| oldjude |
Good video adam. Welcome to Leggo. :) |
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| adam001 |
cool video adam and liked the zoom format a lot !
i was wondering about the KQ hand where you c/c flop on like A94 2tone with no bdfd or anything and you even contemplated calling turn, i don't see how you can justify calling there with basically 0% eq vs Ax and even if villain has a draw he has a ton of equity and sometimes he will get there/bluff rivers.
Also another question was about the 54s hand where you 3b COvsBTN and cb KJ9 2tone where u didnt even have the bdfd, do u really think tripling there is a good play with ATC (well clearly not 100% of the time automatically or anything, but in general), you had basically the nutlow with no draws and even though i agree that its a board where if you DO start barreling you have to follow through bricks bc of all the pair+draw hands. i wont bother doing the math here but basically a lot of the time by the river either a T J Q K A will come on the board which will either make it a 4straight board or pair one of the cards that he is very likely to have hit and never be folding (J/K), adding the fact that u have absolutely nothing to improve to and some of the time something completely random will happen like he is going to c/jam turn or he is going to block-lead river like he did this time (basically forcing you to not-bluff and you cant call bc u have like 5 high) + sometimes he simply wont fold KQ for like 3 streets.
also another small q, have u always played without the hud ? and are u at all worried about the fact that some of the blocker 3bets that u are making vs earlier position openers might be too loose simply bc some of them might be opening like 10% of hands UTG or only 15% from MP or something or do you think that having blockers + position + you arent 3betting those 100% of the time make it random enough and thus good ?
this got long : )
Some people just cbet Axx 100% of the time with air, and continue with a 2nd barrel too often, but not a 3rd barrel, putting you on Ax for calling turn, and floats + any pair for calling flop. I thought he was one of these people.
The 45s hand yeah I could have checked back flop and possibly gone for a delayed cbet, but didnt think id get any credit in that spot for a delayed cbet/bet line, and with our dynamic and a read that he would c/r flop with most hands he'd call 3 with, I thought it was a profitable triple spot, despite having 0 equity. But yeah, in general I dont think its a good plan to triple these boards with no equity and little reads.
Yes, ive always played without a hud, and yes im a little bit worried that I may 3b some peoples EP opens too wide at times, but I think I adjust well enough to people who it doesn't seem to work as often vs and people who it works more frequently against, and generally have a good feel for how im being viewed/how people will react to it at the time, something you become a lot better at hudless. |
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| adam001 |
also would just like to say thank you for all the positive feedback so far, and looking forward to making future videos :) |
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| Rolling chances |
i don't know how much i like the 3 bet on the button with aces around 28.30, granted the C/O is short but i think far too often you get crazy respect to get value from AA in that sitch. Besides i don't think it hurts to induce one of the blinds to squeeze. |
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| baba |
yeah on non D's I fire the turn pretty much 100% there, just range vs range wise im going to have the best hand quite often on turn. If I get called by the fish and the reg folds on turn, id always bet overcards, and possibly consider betting a d, but probably just shut down on lower cards and d's. If the fish folded and the reg called, id fire all non d's, and crai on a T. If they both called turn id probably fire all non d's/T's again because now I think theres a bigger chance the fish folds to an AI bet on river with a T 3 ways.
Supposing only the reg calls your turn barrel on a blank I assume the reason your not bluffing river diamonds is because your expecting the reg to fold a bunch of his weaker Tx hands to your turn bet?
On a flush river I think it's reasonable to give a reg 14/15 combos of flushs as a worst case scenario (assuming he doesnt ever raise the flop with any flush draws) He can also potentially have T9s,JTs,QTs,KTs,ATs which is 15 combos.
So if the reg calls all Tx on a turn blank hes folding to a river bet on a flush completing card around 50% of the time which makes a bluff +ev.
So is the reason you wouldnt bluff flush rivers because you think he folds weaker Tx hands like T9s/JTs/QTs on the turn?
Sorry for all the questions btw! Its the sign of a good video! hehe! |
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| adam001 |
yes, I think the reg doesnt peel me twice there with a weak Tx, and when he peels turn he likely just has a good fd or combodraw. Also, im just repping more value hands then fd's here so its awkward to fire a d river when I would probably check a lot of my value range in that spot. |
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| baba |
Cheers Adam,
I dont understand this:
Also, im just repping more value hands then fd's here so its awkward to fire a d river when I would probably check a lot of my value range in that spot.
It sounds like you would check some (all?) flushs on the river to protect all your Tx and stronger hands that cant value bet on the flush river? |
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| adam001 |
yeah I would, vs good regs anyways. |
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| Kesky |
Hi Adam, just wanted to say I thought this was a top notch video, and I really enjoyed it.
For the future vids - a Powerpoint presentation on theory would be my wish. |
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| Rolling chances |
i will say i do agree with what you said about K/J Os being a hand you need to 4 bet or fold to a 3 bet given the reverse implied odds and how -EV it is in and out of position. however the AA spot seems more profitable just calling on the button (thats the way i see it)
on the 6535 board 17 mins in do you expect him to be giving up with most of his bluffs when the board pairs? presumably on the 2/ river your turning your hand into a bluff given that if the turn narrows his range 10/10 and 9/9 and possibly 5 x or A/6-K6. |
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| desire |
another question came to mind :
as you have started to play more and more with having the lead in majority of the pots you play in, while also being extremely careful about being balanced, are you worried at all about basically not having a check/not folding range in a ton of spots ? if you play most hands with the lead and rather bet twice thinly and check usually plan on folding, don't you think people can bluff with impunity when checked to in a lot of spots ? i mean i understand there are spots where you can decide to bluffcatch instead but they seem to come up rarely and are usually dictated by the fact that we have like top boat or whatever (well not necessarily but basically something that is really strong and also blocks villains most likely calling hand combos)
i feel like as people play more and more aggro and kind of valuebet/merge/semibluff/bluff with a mixed range they are often betting with every hand they want to continue and are often giving up when they check.
it would be cool if you could somehow make a video or like .. eight of them in a format where you talk about some of the bigger leaks you see people have or in general maybe things you think some of the better players do better than the not so good regs and whatever (for example i think you said clawviper had gotten a lot better - what makes you say that/in what aspects of the game did he change etc).
going through live hands is obviously useful as we get to see your thought process and stuff but i feel like maybe helping leggo viewers plug leaks by getting them to think about certain things might be a better way for them to start actually thinking and learning on their own
thanks and looking forward to seeing more content from you asap, you seem to be a very fitting person for this leggopoker thingy heh |
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| adam001 |
i will say i do agree with what you said about K/J Os being a hand you need to 4 bet or fold to a 3 bet given the reverse implied odds and how -EV it is in and out of position. however the AA spot seems more profitable just calling on the button (thats the way i see it)
on the 6535 board 17 mins in do you expect him to be giving up with most of his bluffs when the board pairs? presumably on the 2/ river your turning your hand into a bluff given that if the turn narrows his range 10/10 and 9/9 and possibly 5 x or A/6-K6.
yeah I think flatting with AA there is good, decided to 3b this time, def possible flatting has higher EV.
Yeah I expect him to give up with most of his pure bluffs on turn, and continue to bet with some merged value hands + draws for that sizing. On the river I just couldnt picture him c/c'ing me with anything, so thought betting was the best play. |
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| adam001 |
another question came to mind :
as you have started to play more and more with having the lead in majority of the pots you play in, while also being extremely careful about being balanced, are you worried at all about basically not having a check/not folding range in a ton of spots ? if you play most hands with the lead and rather bet twice thinly and check usually plan on folding, don't you think people can bluff with impunity when checked to in a lot of spots ? i mean i understand there are spots where you can decide to bluffcatch instead but they seem to come up rarely and are usually dictated by the fact that we have like top boat or whatever (well not necessarily but basically something that is really strong and also blocks villains most likely calling hand combos)
i feel like as people play more and more aggro and kind of valuebet/merge/semibluff/bluff with a mixed range they are often betting with every hand they want to continue and are often giving up when they check.
it would be cool if you could somehow make a video or like .. eight of them in a format where you talk about some of the bigger leaks you see people have or in general maybe things you think some of the better players do better than the not so good regs and whatever (for example i think you said clawviper had gotten a lot better - what makes you say that/in what aspects of the game did he change etc).
going through live hands is obviously useful as we get to see your thought process and stuff but i feel like maybe helping leggo viewers plug leaks by getting them to think about certain things might be a better way for them to start actually thinking and learning on their own
thanks and looking forward to seeing more content from you asap, you seem to be a very fitting person for this leggopoker thingy heh
Yeah, in the video I did seem to be quite barrel/bet happy but I am aware that I need to throw some decent hands into my checking ranges. Basically whenever my range is stronger then theirs and its just better for me to bet my range I end up firing a lot, or check folding immediately, which is another thing I balance by c/c'ing some strong hands and c/r'ing some hands, but I have strong checking ranges when cards improve my opponents range over mine. For instance if I 3b pf with AQo, flop Q72r I bet he calls, turn Q, id rarely bet this turn with anything.
The only way id start checking cards that are better for my ranges then my opponents with good hands is to level better regs into capping my ranges in certain spots to get them to bluff jam over river bets or turn their range into a bluff. An example of that would be like R QQ pf bet on Q72r K turn and perhaps id decide to c/c here to cap my range on a card that he assumes I would bet 100% of my value hands on, but this is only in certain cases vs regs with lots of history.
And yeah I could do a series on what I think regs are doing badly and what the best regs are doing well, thanks for the suggestion. |
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| baba |
Some people just cbet Axx 100% of the time with air, and continue with a 2nd barrel too often, but not a 3rd barrel, putting you on Ax for calling turn, and floats + any pair for calling flop. I thought he was one of these people.
The 45s hand yeah I could have checked back flop and possibly gone for a delayed cbet, but didnt think id get any credit in that spot for a delayed cbet/bet line, and with our dynamic and a read that he would c/r flop with most hands he'd call 3 with, I thought it was a profitable triple spot, despite having 0 equity. But yeah, in general I dont think its a good plan to triple these boards with no equity and little reads.
Hey Adam, posted this in another thread, but thought I'd post here incase you missed it on 2+2...
I've seen you use the 'delayed cbet/bet riv' phrase before. Just wanna check I'm following what your saying correctly. Do you mean:
Delay cbet the turn and bet the river ? Or do you mean delay cbet the turn or the river (just firing one barrel not both)
Thanks again! |
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| adam001 |
I mean bet turn bet river |
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| kdm0505 |
Hey adam,
Good vid. Can you explain why you fold 22-77 otb vs utg raise pf? I would think that it would be profitable to set mine in that situation. Is your standard to fold 22-77 vs an early open by a reg? |
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| mythrilfox |
always loved your 2+2 posts and thought this vid was fantastic. looking forward to many more. |
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| robbyd86 |
great vid! plz make more |
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| adam001 |
Hey adam,
Good vid. Can you explain why you fold 22-77 otb vs utg raise pf? I would think that it would be profitable to set mine in that situation. Is your standard to fold 22-77 vs an early open by a reg?
Hey, tbh I think its relatively close, and I probably do flat them vs some weaker regs. Its somewhat nice to have in your perceived range anyways, so that you can credibly bluff raise a wider variety of boards. That said, I think vs above average regs who are just in general going to play well postflop, you are losing $ vs their utg range here pf if the pot doesn't go multiway. |
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| 2Ciaran2 |
The video is to blurry to see bet sizes unless it's just me. Was good though. |
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| Probability |
Hi 2Ciaran2,
I'm going to assume you streamed the video. If that's the case the quality will not be as good as watching it from a downloaded copy. With streaming we are forced to choose between a lower quality stream that people on slower connections can use effectively or a high quality stream where some users will be required to wait for the stream to download a bit. When making the decision on stream quality we elected to go with a slightly lower quality stream since users having to wait for the stream to download takes away much of the convenience.
If you can't see the bet sizes on a downloaded copy of the video perhaps there is some other issue. If that's the case we'd be happy to take a look and attempt to trouble shoot you.
- Matt |
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| 2Ciaran2 |
thanks for the reply. yeah i streamed it. making the video clear enough to see bet sizes seems pretty important. it's normally not a problem though so whatever. |
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| Partylurker |
Decent video but it definitely sounded like it was your first :)
Try not to use too many filler words like " you know ", " kind of..." and "like...". |
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| habanero |
34.22 - 88:
agree with folding usually 22-77 in BTN vs. a typical tight UTG-range.
Though here you had a fish in the BB, it pink is your colour for fishes.
I guess then you call all PPs?
What when the fish is in the SB (normal fish like 40/20) and the BB is a solid reg?
what is your default flattingrange regards to pps in like CovsUTG/MP and MPvsUTG?
do you flat any pp in SBvsMP/UTG and what is bout BBvsUTG/MP? |
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| neonsolen |
How the fxxx do I download videos now on Leggo? |
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| Probability |
Right click "WMV" then click "Save link as." |
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| mootang |
Since I put a decent chunk of his turn betting range on thin value hands, I was definitely going to be firing all river cards when checked to as I could only rep 1 bluff combo (78) and I think he thinks I fold turn with that a decent amount of the time, even to his small sizing. I also don't expect him to think im double floating to bluff river.
just gonna analyze this hand because I am not sure what I think about it lol.
in this hand I think you minraised from the button (so you are wide), he calls a minraise out of the bb (he can be v wide here). you are betting this flop (meh not sure how wide) but indisputably its a better board for him and a good spot for him to put pressure on you. and as you said its a good spot for him to be merged to not only bluff raise this but to go for thin value with some of his holdings (A6-99). so all in all when you get cr'd on this flop even with this hand... life is not that fun, and I think going forward (past the flop) it wont be that easy of a spot esp against the more thinking opponents. here's a question---lets say your opponent calls 40% of hands to minraise, what seems like an ideal flop cr % on this board texture against a thinking regular.
Now comes the turn which we either still have the best hand (but he will have some equity even with his bluffs) or he is value owning us and our equity sucks (o well we have to call).
Now comes the river and he checks. I think from our opponents perspective he should be betting!!! Agree/Disagree? Besides him having a vv limited to no c/c range on the river (which you were smart enough to figure out and his fault for not having) he should still be trying to win this pot with his range. Theres no reason he shouldnt be even betting his hand like 99. Lets say you raise 40% of hands on btn, ~480 combos...only 16 of those are quads/boats and then about 40 of those are trips/straights which are wayyy reduced given that you will check back 5x on this flop a decent amount and dont get to the river with that many 4x hands.
now this stuff about you having a 6 blocker wasnt sure how serious you were being :). but I tend to think people vastly over estimate how much this stuff matters. It reduces like 4 total combos of potential boats. |
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| Gerv |
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@48:12 with AdJd top right
Are you calling river here? Why?
I think, i personally would just muck here, given i block some fds and i don't rly expect ppl to fire through here often enough on a pairing river.
rly interesting that there's still a reg playing without a hud... especially in zoom. i honestly thought this was something that never happens :) [/FONT] |
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| kaimac |
Great video!
~38min where you check raise 99 on Kh9s7d and say you would also check raise 98 and 87s as check calling isn't good. How do you plan to play turn cards that don't improve you equity. Say an Ac 2c or 4s Ah run out or any other tough run out.
Thanks |
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| Donktard |
10/10 |
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