| Probability |
Hey guys,
Just wanted to step in and say that Kyle's video which was scheduled for today was delayed but will be coming out later this month.
- Matt |
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| Kesky |
Nice trip down the memory lane. Poker looked so much different back then. |
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| MoneyJWM |
Nice video, wish those games were still around :/ btw who doctored the HH??? (spill the beans :) |
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| davisimo |
Probably the Portuguese prodigy.
Pretty nostalgic vid even for me, never got close to playing those games but I used to rail team israel because I had a DC sub so I'd root for the guys I was learning from. |
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| beepokerking |
whats an FTOP mistake? |
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| davisimo |
fundamental theorem of poker mistake |
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| aejones |
whats an FTOP mistake?
fundamental theorem of poker mistake
it just means when you do something other than exactly what you would do if you could see your opponents' cards |
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| arturboruc |
Nice video, wish those games were still around
btw who doctored the HH??? (spill the beans :)
+1 on both |
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| mootang |
"if you want to listen to me ramble while you are running..i dont know why the fk you would ever want to do that." awesome.
the games seem to have changed a lot. a lot of your adjustment seems to consider more effective sizing... saying you bet 10-20% less/more in some spots is nothing to crazy in terms of it being over 4 years ago!
who is guy that doctored a hh on a poker training site?
aejones --- potential suggestion for your next video. in the spirit of your last hu video you should keep with the theme. you play an opponent 1 or 2 tables hu nl and you put there opponents exact cards after the hand. so no more questions what did our opponent have because we can exactly see and cross check how good you actually play :). i know this concept has been done before with like mynmzgreg or maybe other videos that have done this on leggo? i always enjoy seeing how opponent is playing/thinking and just being able to rabit cam there hole cards at all times lol. |
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| ralphcif789 |
hey aaron,
a couple of q's:
1) why is pt4/3 iyo better than hem/2?
2) did you ever do a theory essay on splitting your range? if not, whats a good example where you want to. or where you dont.
cheers |
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| aejones |
1) why is pt4/3 iyo better than hem/2?
i liked pt3 simply bc it ran for mac. i got used to the interface of pt4 while i helped give input on some of the features. i liked hem1 and heard negative things about hem2 (just that it got more complicated). truthfully for me it's about ease of use and intuitiveness, im honestly not very familiar with hem2 so i can't comment TOO much.
2) did you ever do a theory essay on splitting your range? if not, whats a good example where you want to. or where you dont.
i don't think so. what you need to be concerned with is these questions:
if im value betting, what worse hands will he call with? is he likely enough to call X% of the time?
if im bluffing, what better hands will fold? is he likely enough to fold Y% of the time?
just make sure you don't overlap and end up betting a hand for value where a guy is never going to call with worse and never going to fold better. |
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| ralphcif789 |
Cheers aaron. That was v helpful
Idk if you can go into it but to return to another comment. You mentioned Eric Liu being a big donator in the game. Was he that bad of a player?
That kind of touches upon a debate I was recently having on the cardrunners forums. How can you release 3x videos a month, and cr cant get a new High Stakes pro to join their team? I mean in the sense of letting others know the ins and outs of your game. Are you in any way hampered by opponents watching your videos?
And to return to Eric (or other players that have come and gone from the game), is there a type of playing style or strategy that is best left unknown or hidden to others? Or will the better players always figure out counterstrategies over time? |
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| aejones |
Cheers aaron. That was v helpful
Idk if you can go into it but to return to another comment. You mentioned Eric Liu being a big donator in the game. Was he that bad of a player?
no, i don't really remember bashing him, he was a reasonable player
That kind of touches upon a debate I was recently having on the cardrunners forums. How can you release 3x videos a month, and cr cant get a new High Stakes pro to join their team? I mean in the sense of letting others know the ins and outs of your game. Are you in any way hampered by opponents watching your videos?
sometimes, it's just a different mindset, guessing who has seen your videos and who hasn't
And to return to Eric (or other players that have come and gone from the game), is there a type of playing style or strategy that is best left unknown or hidden to others? Or will the better players always figure out counterstrategies over time?
im not quite sure what you mean but even if someone doesn't give deep insight into their game, we can extrapolate from results and showdowns what hands they're doing what with. i guess we won't always know exactly why but we should be abel to figure it out pretty easily.
back in the day some ppl started playing like 21/20 or something on party poker before it closed to US players, they realized having the initiative was really good and they mostly 3-bet from the blinds. it was a strategy that was very imperfect but it was a bit ahead of its time as well. no one needed to make a video to realize they were 3-nbetting nearly 100% of their continuing range before the flop |
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| ralphcif789 |
back in the day some ppl started playing like 21/20 or something on party poker before it closed to US players, they realized having the initiative was really good and they mostly 3-bet from the blinds. it was a strategy that was very imperfect but it was a bit ahead of its time as well. no one needed to make a video to realize they were 3-nbetting nearly 100% of their continuing range before the flop
oh, well while we're talking. im not really a 6max player but remember from the sauce HH vid you co-made it was to do with 3 betting the button. and obv im aware it was a strategy dave benefield used for a long time.
i recall him saying that after a while either the better players or everyone worked out how to (whats the right phrase?) deal with this strategy. i havent watched any of your live play 6 max vids aaron so dont know how frequently you are using this tactic now or in the past.
but is it still a successful strategy? even at the mid-high stakes.
if it is, what might've raptor have done differently from you for his to have not been after a while? |
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| ralphcif789 |
im not quite sure what you mean but even if someone doesn't give deep insight into their game, we can extrapolate from results and showdowns what hands they're doing what with. i guess we won't always know exactly why but we should be abel to figure it out pretty easily.
no i was just trying to elaborate on the whole nature of being a video-maker. is there a downside to making your game available for public consumption? who better to ask than aejones, a man who's been there since near the beginning of the video training industry. iyo does it make any significant difference to your winrate (being an online training instructor)? |
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| aejones |
oh, well while we're talking. im not really a 6max player but remember from the sauce HH vid you co-made it was to do with 3 betting the button. and obv im aware it was a strategy dave benefield used for a long time.
i recall him saying that after a while either the better players or everyone worked out how to (whats the right phrase?) deal with this strategy. i havent watched any of your live play 6 max vids aaron so dont know how frequently you are using this tactic now or in the past.
but is it still a successful strategy? even at the mid-high stakes.
if it is, what might've raptor have done differently from you for his to have not been after a while?
people basically adjusted by 4-betting wider. at first, as a blufff, and then naturally increasing their value ranges while 5-bet ranges got wider. im not sure what you're asking-- it's good to have the lead and it's good to 3-bet a lot, but if you do it too much you will wind up making mistakes. if you 3-bet 15-20%, you will get 4-bet too much and be forced to call a hand like QJs and play a pot with a low PSR or fold QJs and potentially make a fundamental theorem of poker mistake or go all in with QJs and potentially get it in against a very strong range that has QJs crushed. instead, you usually choose to call QJs to a single raise, since getting X to 1 you are almost always mkaing a +EV play. |
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| aejones |
no i was just trying to elaborate on the whole nature of being a video-maker. is there a downside to making your game available for public consumption? who better to ask than aejones, a man who's been there since near the beginning of the video training industry. iyo does it make any significant difference to your winrate (being an online training instructor)?
probably, yes |
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| ralphcif789 |
probably, yes
well, that'd be the reason why cardrunners cant attract new HS pro's then
i'd like to be a video-maker for other reasons (creative 1's).
so if its about the money, its unlikely we'll be getting any original new video-makers in the near future in the industry |
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| ralphcif789 |
people basically adjusted by 4-betting wider. at first, as a blufff, and then naturally increasing their value ranges while 5-bet ranges got wider. im not sure what you're asking-- it's good to have the lead and it's good to 3-bet a lot, but if you do it too much you will wind up making mistakes. if you 3-bet 15-20%, you will get 4-bet too much and be forced to call a hand like QJs and play a pot with a low PSR or fold QJs and potentially make a fundamental theorem of poker mistake or go all in with QJs and potentially get it in against a very strong range that has QJs crushed. instead, you usually choose to call QJs to a single raise, since getting X to 1 you are almost always mkaing a +EV play.
no i werent asking anything in particular.
just again musing on the nature of the video-making process. and returning to the theme of if you put it out on video, (it would seem from a non-player) for $30 your opponents can view all your plays, and develop counter-strategies.
the fact you've been a consistent winner for a long-time would highlight that that may not be the case. at the same time i always wanted to know about 3-betting on the button in 6max.
so it satisfied a couple of desires :) |
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| ralphcif789 |
Nice video, wish those games were still around :/ btw who doctored the HH??? (spill the beans :)
It has to be Dusty the Leatherass.
KILL THE BEEF!!! |
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