In this video Tim uses the HEM re-player to go over some interesting spots while playing $1,000 NL on Party Poker and Full Tilt. Tim discusses 3-barreling, carefully sizing bets against weaker players and some amusing coolers.
at 40:00 with a little bit of agresive history you can overbet all in on the river... or lead a little overpot turn shove river something fun like that
at 40:00 with a little bit of agresive history you can overbet all in on the river... or lead a little overpot turn shove river something fun like that
I agree, since my river range is usually going to be very polarized anyway. In this spot I thought that smaller bets would get more calls since we didn't have a ton of aggressive history, but I would have liked to bet the turn a bit bigger.
Hand @ 9 mins: 3bet A8s and call a raise on 992.
I totally agree on your flop analysis.
On the turn you say that you wouldn't mind checking back on the turn if you were him (with the flushdraw). What do you think is actually the best play? Checking back, betting half pot, betting 1/3 pot, or kindoff potting/overbetting? since sizing is kindoff awkward.
Hand @ 9 mins: 3bet A8s and call a raise on 992.
I totally agree on your flop analysis.
On the turn you say that you wouldn't mind checking back on the turn if you were him (with the flushdraw). What do you think is actually the best play? Checking back, betting half pot, betting 1/3 pot, or kindoff potting/overbetting? since sizing is kindoff awkward.
I'd prefer to check back in villain's spot, since I wouldn't be able to rep many Ax hands going for value vs TT-KK, plus there is the chance that I c/r the turn some of the time and villain gets blown off his flush draw.
Please tell me you don't respond to bad beats that joyfully in real time, that just makes me jealous and means I have a looong way to go with handling tilt and bad beats!
jaded - haha na, I'm not quite that zen, although through experience I have gotten better at dealing with beats while playing. They look pretty funny in hindsight, though :p
When you talk about your decisions regarding bet sizing and why you choose to bomb certain rivers when you have the nuts you talk about his calling range being inelastic. I understand the inelastic calling range concept but how do you determine that his calling range is inelastic? Is it simply because the draws missed or is it more complicated than that? Can you elaborate on any other factors? Do you find both good and bad players have inelastic calling ranges in similar situations? Thanks.
When you talk about your decisions regarding bet sizing and why you choose to bomb certain rivers when you have the nuts you talk about his calling range being inelastic. I understand the inelastic calling range concept but how do you determine that his calling range is inelastic? Is it simply because the draws missed or is it more complicated than that? Can you elaborate on any other factors? Do you find both good and bad players have inelastic calling ranges in similar situations? Thanks.
Sorry for the delay in responding - been travelling around Iceland (blog post coming!)
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
inelastic calling ranges often occur when you know your opponents range is very polarized - in this spot he knows I either have 22 or a T or a bluff, so if he is planning on bluff catching with his pairs then he will often do so if I bet 1/2 pot or full pot. Generally calling ranges aren't perfectly inelastic, meaning if I shoved then he might be more willing to fold his pair.
I think it's hard to make general statements in regards to elasticity of calling ranges of good/bad players, since overall there is basically always going to be a continuum of call vs fold preference where the inclination to call increases as the bet size faced decreases. But I think that less sophisticated players can't really read too much into bet sizes and aren't great hand readers, which makes their calling ranges more elastic in more spots - which means that you can value bet thinner and smaller with weaker hands, eg. valuebetting 2 bbs into an 8 bb pot with a very marginal pair. There are lot of examples, but I think that's a decent one to keep in mind often.
