shootaa - $400 NL (Part 2/2)

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In this part 2 of 2 video Reid continues to play 4 tables of $400 NL 6-Max on Full Tilt. Reid discusses how the aggressive pre-flop dynamics of the first part can pay off and how aggressive regulars bluff too often in certain spots in which they are often successful against unbalanced ranges of weaker opposition.
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jaykay25 Awesome
Zaza nice vid!! 6.29 min: u overbet the river with q10ss, saying that this might induce a lighter call down.
dont u think u would only make a standard sized bet as a bluff,exactly cos of the fact that he has almost no check calling range?Hence if u would usually bluff for such an amount I dont see how he could view an overbet as weaker.Polarizing ur range doesnt really play in this situation if u have no bluffing range that u would overbet in this spot.
Kesky Excellent video with an eloquently explained thought process.

Edit:
One question.

At 27min in you say that the villain's re-raise on the turn is bad because a lot of your range is trips (which would value bet the river) and air (that folds to a raise). Does this mean that you're folding trips to the re-raise or am I misunderstanding you?

Is there a different, better line that the villain could take in this situation? I mean, if the river brings the forth spade you're probably not calling with worse, right?

Thank you.
baba Yo Reid!

18 mins: 65 on 910j8 when you bet the turn after the flop checks through are you betting the river if called?

28 mins: A8 - you donk led the flop with a flush draw supposing the turn was Q of clubs instead of Q of spades are you still firing the turn and river even if you miss the river?
dangerfish Reid--about half way through vid you have A6 suited and C-bet a drawy 98x flop and comment that you preferred a check raise or check call as PFR but did not like a check fold. It seems in my experience I have very little success c-betting these boards because there are so many hands most villain will continue with. Do you like the check raise because villain will likely stab with all air and check back a fair bit of his decent equity hands like pair +draws? I can't seem to come up with a good way to play these board textures out of position.
jaykay25 What stands out about your videos is that you seem to know how and when your opponents are about to adjust to you, and you preemptively adjust to them. How do you know when to switch from one exploitative (exploitable) style to the other? I guess im trying to ask, what do you see that makes you say "hes ready to start 4betting me light starting now".

Heres a post i didnt write that kinda sums up where my question is coming from:

http://www.leggopoker.com/forums/medium-stakes/anti-hem-stats-gto-balancing-thread-12399.html#post107378
shootaa Hey guys, I'm in NYC and my buddy and I are off to get a router now. I'll respond to everyone when we are back.

-Reid
shootaa
Excellent video with an eloquently explained thought process.

Edit:
One question.

At 27min in you say that the villain's re-raise on the turn is bad because a lot of your range is trips (which would value bet the river) and air (that folds to a raise). Does this mean that you're folding trips to the re-raise or am I misunderstanding you?

Is there a different, better line that the villain could take in this situation? I mean, if the river brings the forth spade you're probably not calling with worse, right?

Thank you.


You weren't misunderstanding me, I described the hand incorrectly from what I think now, looking back on it. I think his turn raise is ok. He has some air in his range (straight draws) and it looks like a spot where it would be suicidal to bluff, so that's always nice versus a good player when you are bluffing. I think I would prefer a call if I were him with my entire range without history unless he knows somehow that I would three-barrel the river very often after he called me on the turn. Whether or not that is the case, I cannot say here, but I think that for most of the time, he's really only trying to get me to call with hands that would be betting the river and that he's folding out bluffs on the turn, which is bad because he has a made hand and can represent something weaker like a pair plus flush draw on the turn by calling again.
shootaa
nice vid!! 6.29 min: u overbet the river with q10ss, saying that this might induce a lighter call down.
dont u think u would only make a standard sized bet as a bluff,exactly cos of the fact that he has almost no check calling range?Hence if u would usually bluff for such an amount I dont see how he could view an overbet as weaker.Polarizing ur range doesnt really play in this situation if u have no bluffing range that u would overbet in this spot.


I'm not sure if you've seen the first video in this two-part series, but I won a decent sized hand in-position versus this player. I've also talked some strategy with this player and he knows what I'm capable of doing. It's a spot where versus 99.99% of people you play against, even this guy who I said knows who I am and how I play, where balance isn't really necessary. It's just not really going to come up often, so I can bet whatever amount that will net the most proftit.

If he's multitabling, and has QJo here, he'll probably just snap fold and think nothing of it; however, overbets generally command a bit more attention, so that's one pro for my play. Another is that hand I won versus him in the other earlier video. The more seeds of doubt I can plant in his mind that I'm just doing this with my entire range, the better. As it is, I think he almost always has some bluff he's just giving up with, so it won't really matter.
shootaa
Yo Reid!

18 mins: 65 on 910j8 when you bet the turn after the flop checks through are you betting the river if called?

28 mins: A8 - you donk led the flop with a flush draw supposing the turn was Q of clubs instead of Q of spades are you still firing the turn and river even if you miss the river?


Maybe. I'll say versus some people, a lot of the time. Versus some people, none of the time. Versus the other people, sometimes. It's a pretty sick spot to float because if you think about it, I have my entire flop checking range and it's unlikely I'd be value betting a lot of hands here like AT for instance.

Maybe. I think then that it might be closer to a check-call. It really depends on the player's turn bet-when-checked-to range in this spot; although, I understand that's tough to say. It might be a decent spot to bet just to take down the hand, even though basically everything I fold will be a worse hand than mine (KT/T9 type things) because if I check, I'm in no-man's land and who knows what my opponent will do with his bluffs.
shootaa
Reid--about half way through vid you have A6 suited and C-bet a drawy 98x flop and comment that you preferred a check raise or check call as PFR but did not like a check fold. It seems in my experience I have very little success c-betting these boards because there are so many hands most villain will continue with. Do you like the check raise because villain will likely stab with all air and check back a fair bit of his decent equity hands like pair +draws? I can't seem to come up with a good way to play these board textures out of position.


Exactly. If people have too wide of a range when you're cbetting adjust by doing something else. This may mean barreling more often, it may mean check-raising turns, it may mean cbetting less often, or it could mean a combination of the three along with some other lines. If you keep beating your head into a brick wall, your head is going to start to hurt. So I guess find a new wall or stop moving your head forward?
shootaa
What stands out about your videos is that you seem to know how and when your opponents are about to adjust to you, and you preemptively adjust to them. How do you know when to switch from one exploitative (exploitable) style to the other? I guess im trying to ask, what do you see that makes you say "hes ready to start 4betting me light starting now".

Heres a post i didnt write that kinda sums up where my question is coming from:

http://www.leggopoker.com/forums/medium-stakes/anti-hem-stats-gto-balancing-thread-12399.html#post107378


That's a tough question to answer. Each player has their own breaking point, what I've heard called an inflection point and what I've heard called a few other things. I wrote a bit in my book about this and called it "quantifying leveling." Simply put, I would try to think of things as swaying a few percentage points one way or the other, not just being a bluff or air. So when I say "he's ready to start 4betting my light starting now," really what I mean is "he's probably bluffing here about 7% more often than normal." Obviously, that 7% number will change often based on the opponent and metagame and it's never going to be a known exact number. The important thing to realize is that it takes a while to intuit this adjustment, but I wouldn't think of them in terms of absolute adjustments like "ok, he's bluffing" type things. Absolutes will always get you in trouble in poker (you see what I did there?).
lingdog1985 Only just got around to watch this vid, if its not too late, i ve got a few questions about this 1 hand.

At 3:30, we opened to 3x in SB with 6d8d, BB calls.

Flop: 2c 9d 9c, we cbet 16 into 22, BB calls

Turn: 5h, we bet 44 into 53, BB calls again.

River 7d, we bet 112 into 141. BB calls with 88

The questions I have are:
Are we betting all our FD on the turn?

If we are, are we betting all our missed FD as well on this river? if we do, won't we have way too many combos of bluffs making it super easy for villain to call down?

Is 76 the worst hand you will be value betting on the river? What hands are you c/calling? or do u not have a c/calling range here?

Thanks v much
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