In part 2 of Marvin's SSNL series he continues to punish opponents on 4 tables of $100 NL 6_Max on PokerStars. Marvin discusses playing against a narrow value range and getting the last bet in with fold equity with a marginal draw.
About 2.5x-ing OTB. I obviously agree with what you said about calling 3bets, one can and should call more often 3bets after a 2.5x or 2x raise, but when you said "there's no reason for 2.5x ing and still call the same %", I guess you still lose less when you're raise/folding and give blinds poorer risk/reward and a greater SPR when OOP in a 3bet pot, so that should induce more calls than 3bets from them.
Again I agree with everything else you said, you should defend more often to 3bets given position and greater SPR, just wanted to point out that there is still some good reasons to 2.5x OTB even if defending more often is just better.
Also about the AJ hand vs ken when we get c/red on K64r, if you think you don't know his tendancies enough to call, how do you feel about 3betting ? It's gross, but if he's not good anough to recognize he's not repping anything, maybe he won't realize that you're not repping anything either by 3betting and won't do anything about it.
And even if he somewhat get this I don't think he's gonna randomly 4b shove JT or w/e.
This video was made on June 1st so sorry if the stuff isn't fresh in my head. There is one thing though that is REALLY important if you are to take something from this video:
Raising with a draw that has no showdown value (or very little)
In the video, I 3B a garbage hand bb vs button (a mistake) and villan defends w A9s.
Villan flops an OESD and raises small; this is a mistake, but I'll use a better example to illustrate.
We raise preflop to 2.5x on the button w T9hh and get 3B from the blind to 9.5bb and we obviously call since we are a huge calling station. The flop comes 723hh and villan CB half pot (for an illustration, villan bets 44 into an 80 flop). We raise villans CB (might be good, might be bad, but not the point) to 100. THIS IS REALLY BAD.
You might be asking yourself why this is bad since we are giving ourselves a good price on a bluff. I agree we are giving ourselves that, but why not save that for our bluffs (pure bluffs). With that small of a raise size, are we really trying to induce a bluff? Shit, his bluffs beat T high (most of the time). Once we raise, we have to call. If we induced villan to bluff shove AQo, WE MADE A HUGE MISTAKE. We called our stack off with T high and villan got his money in good.
I learned this the hard way a few months ago. I CB w a K high FD and an aggro villan raised me. I am so smart that I made a small reraise and he bluff shoved over the top. SWEET, but guess what, his A high was ahead and it held. When I reviewed the hand after my session, I realized I made the mistake, not him. Moral of the story and video: if you are raising small with a draw, make sure you can beat his bluffs; if not, either call and play the turn/river OR raise an amount where villan won't bluff shove since you look committed. In the example I gave, if we had A7hh, AQhh, etc... raising small isn't bad; he will ship worse draws, we are doing well equity wise versus his value range, and we are ahead of his bluffs. Hopefully, you can see the difference. I think this pretty basic now, but I played a hand 2 days ago with a reg I thought was good who made the same mistake; thankfully, I shoved the A high and it held versus his 9 high (flush draw).
I also had a question about the AJ hand, I've only recently started recognizing spots like this but I'm having trouble adjusting, i dont know what adjustments to make or what kind of things I should know about the opponent before making those adjustments
Like in the video you say you dont know enough about this player to call the check raise on the flop, what would you need to know? And then what would your adjustment be?
The last hand on table 2. You 3b an otb raise in the bb w/J7o, flop is 976r and you cbet - which you thought was bad - and he raises and you shoved and he called. You said that you would be bluff raising better high card hands than A8 e.g AQ/AK etc but are you cbetting AK on 976 a lot of the time?
I would really appreciate if you would answer these questions Steel because apart from a kind of absence of answering questions opposed to other producers, your videos are crystal-clear
I do found your smoking habits a bit distorting during the videos
Sorry for not responding sooner, a lot of the stuff in the video is hazy...
Donktard: I'm CB almost 100% in 3 Bet pots without history. People are just going to fold so often that check/folding AK is such a waste since we are giving villan the green light to take the pot with his entire range. Once you figure out how people react in spots, check/folding AK will probably be standard versus regs. I have never played with villan before so I probably would have CB AK in that spot.
My new year's resolution is to stop smoking... ONE TIME DEALER.
DaveBaker: Bad regs will check/raise these boards without thinking about what they are repping. Good regs will check raise these boards knowing that you know that they know that they rep nothing and will give them credit. And so on and so on. The first thing you should do is try to figure out how the regs you play with think.
The best way to figure out how a villan thinks is in a triple barrel spot on a complete blank: He would never bluff on such a brick river since I am never folding, so I fold; or The river is a brick so I call. The first is thinking on a higher level than the second and will probably not check/raise this board since he knows he doesn't rep anything. The second will since he isn't thinking about what he is repping, he is just attacking a brute force board.
Iesnbold: I kind of leveled myself, but a small reraise probably would have been best instead of floating. I got caught up in the fact that I shouldn't have a reraising range on that board, but if he is check/raise bluffing there then he probably won't understand that.
